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Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front
Atlantic Wire via yahoo ^ | December 19, 2011 | Dashiell Bennet

Posted on 12/19/2011 8:38:13 AM PST by Grunthor

.....A new poll from Public Policy Polling shows that Ron Paul has taken the lead in the Iowa caucus race, while Newt Gingrich's support is fading fast. A different Gallup poll still shows Grinrich still holding the lead, but slipping, while The New York Times has Paul in the lead as well.

Gingrich has seen his numbers in the PPP poll drop from 27 percent to 14 percent in just three weeks, while his favorability rating is now split at 46 percent for to 47 percent against, the worst of any candidate not named Jon Huntsman. That's quite a fall for someone who looked to be running away with the state and taking charge on the national level.

Mitt Romney has also seen his tick up slightly, putting him just behind Paul for second place. The poll measured voters who are planning to vote in the Republican caucus.

Perhaps the most telling secondary question was, "Do you think Newt Gingrich has strong principles?" Only 36 percent say that he does, but for Paul that number was 73 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: Roninf5-1
Yeah, that Islamic threat is such a danger that after 9/11 Bush let millions of illegal aliens from God-knows-where carrying God-know-what waltz right in though the Mexican border and then he allowed hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrate legally. Thank God he created the DHS and TSA to spy on American citizens and grope Grandma and kids at the airports. And that Al Qaeda! They are such a dangerous, mortal enemy that the US and NATO bombed the people of Libya to hand that country over to them.

Uh-oh, someone who actually thinks. Houston, we may have a problem. ;)

101 posted on 12/19/2011 11:56:17 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Redleg Duke

“You realize you are not making any sense, don’t you?
Are you certain we weren’t married to each other once?”

Yes, in a past incarnation, most likely. Two peas in a political pod.


102 posted on 12/19/2011 12:16:29 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Bokababe
You know that graph is bogus.
Paulbots are taking a page out of Obama's playbook. They give a contribution and put down they are military. Just like Obama did. You forgot to mention who in this survey is in second place. Obama has now fallen to second in this scheme. Anybody who has actually served knows any active serviceman does not have an extra $500 average to throw away on an anti-American fringe candidate. I admit the paulbots are good at spamming polls and fake donations, but their tactics will not turn into actual votes.
Do you really think any American who loves their country would donate to either the surrender monkey or Obama?
103 posted on 12/19/2011 12:27:45 PM PST by John D
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To: Gator113

Your very statement is where Obama is laughing as a good deal many of people think the Palin only- but then settled for Cain and then Gingrich thinkers; are enabling Romney with-Gingrich because they dissed Bachmann and Perry because they were direct competition to Palin.When all along it is most likely Perry that would pick Palin as VP.

So we all lose playing the blame each other for Romney/Obama game.


104 posted on 12/19/2011 12:29:26 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: John D
You know that graph is bogus.

You and I have had this conversation before.

No one said they are contributing $500 a piece except you -- most of his contributions are small $20, $50 dollar donations. Would Paul fans spam polls? Sure. Would they-- en masse--risk committing a Federal offense by falsifying their Federal political contribution information? Not likely.

Believe what you like. Doesn't change anything.

105 posted on 12/19/2011 12:40:58 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: flaglady47
Well, then I died for a very good reason!

Good-bye!

106 posted on 12/19/2011 12:49:00 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Grunthor

Don’t believe these bogus polls. The only poll that counts happens on the day of the caucus.

Here’s my prediction:

Michelle Bachmann — 27%

Rick Santorum — 20%

Ron Paul — 18%

Mitt Romney —12%

Newt Gingrich — 11%

Rick Perry — 10%

Huntsman — 1%

Other — 1%


107 posted on 12/19/2011 1:02:17 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: John D
And BTW, I already knew there was an active "Veterans for Ron Paul" organization, Facebook page and movement, so I did a search for similar organizations for each of the major candidates.

There are no "Veterans for Newt Gingrich", no "Veterans for Mitt Romney" organizations that I can find on a Google search, and no Veterans' orgs for any of the other candidates with the exception of Rick Perry. There was a "Veterans for Rick Perry" organization that got him to run for president but according to their website, they disbanded when he jumped into the race.

That should lso tell you something.

108 posted on 12/19/2011 1:03:47 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Palladin
Let's hope so! I saw scattered news reports that Iowa liked Bachmann’s consistent conservatism.I think Perry will do better than most think too.
109 posted on 12/19/2011 1:09:06 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: John D; Bokababe
You know that graph is bogus.

Why am I not surprised? (I doubted its authenticity, which is why I didn't comment on it).

Ron Paul attracts a large number of unethical followers, so I pretty much don't trust anything that looks like he has widespread popularity - graph, poll, anything...

When the real numbers turn up in Iowa we'll see how 'attractive' this mentally unstable, dangerous pseudo-con really is.

Narrow, freakish and left-leaning, boka.......that is the reality of the Paul crowd.

110 posted on 12/19/2011 1:10:18 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Bokababe; John D
Sort of like the "Veterans for John Kerry?"

First of all, what's the proof that any of the Paul spammers ARE veterans just because they say they are?

Secondly, what's the proof that they aren't Viet Nam draftees who are now leftist peaceniks (like he is)?

No proof in that whatsoever. Paul's dummkopf foreign policy can't attract that many legit military people. He despises the very thing they have risked their lives for.......the national security of the United States of America.

111 posted on 12/19/2011 1:15:51 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Palladin

These poll results are from a left leaning poll

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/12/ron-paul-iowa-poll-money-bomb-/1

I do think Gingrich did drop but I don’t think Ron Paul will win Iowa.He MAY come in 2nd or third but he won’t win.


112 posted on 12/19/2011 1:29:05 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: sodpoodle
The media - doing their dirty.

Exactly.

They'd love to see the GOP nominate some leftist like Ron Paul.

Ain't gonna happen.

113 posted on 12/19/2011 1:33:42 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: isthisnickcool
Must be a lot of potheads in Iowa?

And spam monkeys.

114 posted on 12/19/2011 1:35:38 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: ohioWfan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2818671/posts?page=42#42 Imposters, one and all, I’m sure!

Our military swears their life to preserving US Constitution — so does Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants them only to go to war when it is specifically for national defense and not for regime-change or nation-building, and only when Congress passes a Declaration of War, the whole country is behind it, they go to win and come home — rather than turning them into the policemen of the world with no win & no end of the WOT in sight. Ron Paul is a Veteran and Ron Paul has fought even Obama to preserve Veteran’s benefits.

If you don’t see the appeal of that message to members of the US military, then you aren’t putting yourself in their place at all. And if you can’t do that, then you aren’t even rational.


115 posted on 12/19/2011 1:40:37 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: GlockThe Vote
No one is lying. Paul repeated the 9/11 commission's findings? Wove a mad fantasy around it, more like:

“…our policies definitely had an influence and you talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm. They say yes we don‘t like American bombs to be falling on our country and we don’t like the intervention that we do in their nation so to deny this I think is very dangerous. But to argue the case that they want to do us harm because we‘re free and prosperous is very dangerous notion because it’s not true.”

In other words, 9/11 was America's fault because we bombed Iraq. Oh, wait-that can't be. 9/11 was in 2001 and we invaded Iraq in 2003. But in Ron Paul's mind cause follows effect in the race to blame America first.

116 posted on 12/19/2011 2:10:18 PM PST by jboot
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To: Bokababe
Yes, indeed. Ron Paul IS a veteran.....and a lunatic peacenik, and a head-in-the-sand isolationist. All kinds of military personnel who sacrifice their freedom for our national security obviously support a guy who doesn't give a rip about it.

And you call ME irrational.

I'm sorry that your guy is a loser, Bokababe, but he is. He hasn't got a prayer to win any election anywhere, ever again.

Sorry for your loss. But it's the country's, and conservatism's gain.

117 posted on 12/19/2011 2:12:24 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan
LOL! Where in any of that exchange did I say that he was "my guy"? Seriously. Doesn't matter whether he is or isn't -- we were talking about Ron Paul's military support and why THEY would support him, not who I support and why.

That's why I question your ability to be rational on this -- because you must personalize it and can't even see possible motivations why someone else might do something you wouldn't do -- for reasons that you don't have.

118 posted on 12/19/2011 2:26:49 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
No one said they are contributing $500 a piece except you

Go to the site that is putting this bunk out and they are saying that is the average contribution.
119 posted on 12/19/2011 2:51:48 PM PST by John D
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To: Bokababe
Would Paul fans spam polls? Sure. Would they-- en masse--risk committing a Federal offense by falsifying their Federal political contribution information? Not likely.

They are just following the tactics of their second choice, Obama. They know if Obama's justice dept. investigated them Obama's scheme would come to light.
120 posted on 12/19/2011 2:55:20 PM PST by John D
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