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We moan about the Americans running the show but no one else wants to be the world's policeman
The Guardian ^ | Tuesday March 5, 2002 | Ian Buruma

Posted on 03/06/2002 4:17:57 PM PST by vannrox

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To: vannrox
Do you read the articles you yourself post? Sounds like he's bashing the Euros and Japanese, if he's bashing anyone at all.

Not to mention he's raised some excellent points.

21 posted on 03/06/2002 6:48:50 PM PST by GuillermoX
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To: vannrox
This is just a prelude to their banding together to form a world army under the control of the power hungry United Nations. The U.N. want's it's on tax system on the total world population, it's own standing army, it's own court system, and it craves freedom from the influence and power of the USofA.
22 posted on 03/06/2002 7:27:02 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
It can't have it. :-)
23 posted on 03/06/2002 7:32:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You tell em girlfriend. Like they have the good sense to turn a door knob much less run a huge military.
24 posted on 03/06/2002 7:39:23 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: vannrox
it has an infantilising effect on our politics. Japanese and Europeans often resemble rich and rebellious teenagers, whining about their overwheening father, while remaining utterly dependent on his protection.

I think that this is the true crux of the matter...the whiners are dependent upon America for protection from the Big Bad Wolf but they like to posture and pretend that America is too arrogant and that they resent being taken care of...they are infantilizing themselves by not spending some serious money on defense and staying weak.

25 posted on 03/06/2002 7:40:34 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: MissAmericanPie
Oh, they can have the rest of the world because I keep wondering why we even bother reading what these other countries think about us. But they can't have us.

I may be old and pudgy, but I'll take to the streets over that one!

26 posted on 03/06/2002 7:42:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: wimpycat
"It's the British and the French who are actually in the best position to build up their military and ease our military burdens, former imperial powers with connections all over the world, who were a lot nicer to the natives than the Japanese and the Germans--they just lack the will to make the sacrifices necessary to achieve that goal."

Top 10 Nations ranked by GDP (billions)

1 United States $8,511,000.0
2 China $4,420,000.0
3 Japan $2,903,000.0
4 Germany $1,813,000.0
5 India $1,689,000.0
6 France $1,320,000.0
7 United Kingdom $1,252,000.0
8 Italy $1,181,000.0
9 Brazil $1,035,200.0
10 Mexico $815,300.0

I think the reason they always say Germany or Japan is they are the biggest so called, civilized nations after the US. The US is the 800 lb gorilla though. It would take all of Europe working together to equal the military of the US.

27 posted on 03/06/2002 9:05:10 PM PST by monday
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To: vannrox
Actually, I read this not so much as bashing America, although it is clear the writer does not like the US, as an admission that it is the US and only the US which has both the will and the means to even try and keep the peace in the world. I think, from his tone, that he would be even more horrified by an America which said, "A plague on both (all) your houses. Kill yourselves all day long, if you want to. But touch one hair on one American's head and you'll answer to US!"
28 posted on 03/06/2002 9:05:10 PM PST by VietVet
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To: vannrox
Well...I agree with the title. Europeans often complain that America acts way too unilaterally, but when bad things happen, or when a complete psycopath tries to take over the world, we are always the first ones to defend ourselves and everyone else. It is easy to complain, less easy to do.
29 posted on 03/06/2002 9:10:22 PM PST by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: vannrox
Actually, this is quite a good article. This guy seem to have found the core of the problems. It's time the EU and Japan stopped naval gazing and pull their weight. Everyone complains about us then they blithely spend their money on other things while tut-tutting over Americas overwhelming military power.

Well hey, if nobody else is going to bother about defense, the one with sense has to do it.

30 posted on 03/06/2002 9:13:01 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: vannrox
How exactly has our being a superpower hurt these people. It seems to me that we spend our dollars and give our lives to protect these people. We don't get anything out of it, certainly not a thank you.
31 posted on 03/06/2002 9:18:29 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: wimpycat
In a very real sense, America has played the strategic role in Europe that a united, peaceful, democratic Germany should. Germany is the natural leader of Europe but because it does not want the responsibility, America must play that role.

Similarly, a peaceful, democratic Japan would be the natural leader in the Western Pacific. Japanese Special Forces should be hunting Abu Sayyah in Mindinao. But Japan does not want the responsibility because it really is not sorry for its wartime behavior and sometimes embarrasingly lets slip that it really has no respect for other Asians.

The tragedy is that America must play the worlds' policeman because the other countries powerful enough to help mightily in that regard fear that one sip from the cup of military power and they will lapse from pacifist abstinence to staggering goose stepping militarism.

32 posted on 03/07/2002 6:11:59 AM PST by Tokhtamish
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I agree that Europe is punching far below her weight and should increase defence spending if only on modernising her existing armouries.

But let us not forget when Europe started mooting the possibility of creating a European Military many in America in both the present government and in the American Military opposed this.

You may complain about America being forced to deploy her military all over the globe, but your government and Military will not have it any other way, yes they want Europe to increase defence spending but only under the American umbrella.

A fully resurgent and military powerful Europe and Japan, will be seen as a threat at worst and a annoyance at best to American world wide interests.

Cheers Tony

33 posted on 03/07/2002 6:23:25 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: wimpycat
Trying to work out your 2nd paragraph. Who is it that always picks the Japanese and Germans or somebody else to do something about some problem?.
34 posted on 03/10/2002 6:26:20 PM PST by dennybabyboy-fitzy
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