Posted on 02/26/2002 3:28:30 AM PST by Mean Daddy
It's really sad how this "celebration" drives animosity between the races. I really don't see it as positive. Every year corporate America braces for the onslaught of propaganda in February. They rub our nose it, they call out whitey for slavery and bring up the injustices of their past while parading socialist black leaders. Not much positive about that.
A better solution is American Month - celebrate the accomplishments of ALL AMERICANS, not just white or black. Let's come together and celebrate our country and our fellow countrymen!
I DOUBT there is a Human Culture free of the Sin of "SlaveHolding," or the "Shame" of Slavery to another Tribe/Culture/Race/Religious Group!
So Some of ALL of our Forefathers were STUPID/Inconsiderate/Insensitive/Unwary/Savage/incompetent/rapacious/ill-advised/Slaves/Masters!!
That was Then; This is Now!
NO Human Culture is free of the sin of Slavery--or the Humiliation of "Being a Slave!" HISTORY HAS MOVED ON------!
ANY Culture which whines about past abuses as Slaves IS NEARLY ALWAYS a Culture which has ALSO "Held & Abused Slaves" in it's past--or EVEN at present!
America FORMALLY ABOLISHED ALL FORMS of SLAVERY ~ 150 years ago!
Considering World History, "Slavery" has been a "Dead Issue" in America for OVER a Century!
ANY ATTEMPT to claim "reparations" for the alleged "abuse" of a Slave in America HAS TO relate to Century (& a half)-old complaints by individuals sold into slavery (or, sadly, Born into Slavery) from a Black Culture ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN the "Slave Trade!"
American descendants of slaves who are convinced their lives would have been better had their ancestors Not been sold as slaves to Americans OUGHT TO BE "addressing their Grievances" to the African & Arab Families who captured & sold their ancestors into Slavery!
After ALL, History shows that Slaves sold to OTHER CULTURES were treated SO MUCH BETTER than those sold in America!
History CLEARLY SHOWS that if "Slaves" in America were treated "to the STANDARDS" accorded Slaves around the World (1900's), there would BE NO "Descendants" to whine about their "treatment!"
Doc
We did give food, clothing and shelter to the native Americans... only the food was rotten, the clothes had small pox, and the shelter was... well no shelter.
Just what is it that I don't get? Then, I'll be able to better speak to what it is YOU don't get.
That said, I also wanted to make sure you saw another example of Sowell's excellent reasoning.
Sowell's reasoning is excellent most of the time but there are a few flaws in this essay:
First of all, the premise of the essay is really inaccurate- if BHM were about the sins of white people, then the white sinners would be highlighted, not the black person who overcame racism and whatever else to be worthy of mention during BHM. To me, the theme panders to what the likes of you want to hear.
Second, BHM is about achievements, not excuses. The people typically honored during BHM refused to accept one excuse or another as to why they couldn't achieve.
Third, the notion that BHM means not knowing about anyone else's history is completely and totally erroneous. What do you think kids study the rest of the year? Hate to dissapoint you, but yours truly got pretty much all "A's" in American History and World History, and I'm old enough to have studied the non-PC version of those in school.
Tell me again- what is it that I don't seem to get?
Indeed, slavery is an inseparable part of the ethnicity of Slavs. The word derives from the Greek Sclava, or slave. So named because the Mongols regularly raided the steppes and captured these people as slaves, reportedly by the hundreds of thousands. Major Owens, notwithstanding...
It seems to me that Slavs, as a group, have "gotten over it". Though slavery is the derivation of their ethnic identity, it is but a footnote in their cultural history.
The blacks would do well to study their example.
It's not exactly the same thing, but the history of serfs in Russia closely parallels that of slavery in the U.S. -- in just about every important historical and social respect.
Czar Alexander II of Russia liberated the serfs in 1861, two years before Lincoln proclaimed emancipation.
I'd be turning soil that had already been plowed on other threads, and you know it. As long as you, and the race hustlers who want to keep people as victims, have the notion that something as ridiculous as bhm is for MY benefit, solutions to the divisions in this country are impossible.
The gap between what you and I believe, on issues of race, is far too wide.
Now that is a novel idea. We applaud you.
(BTW, I didn't know about Native Americans practicing slavery... and I've got some Cherokee ancestry! Any good links?)
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."
Booker T. Washington 1911
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