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The Freeper Foxhole Enjoys an Almost Lazy Sunday- A B-24 Liberator Walk Around
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Posted on 09/03/2005 9:24:33 PM PDT by alfa6

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To: quietolong

Everything I have read states that only the B-24 had a "designed" retractable ball turret.

Here ia a link to a page by a former ball turret gunner on B-24s that is rather interseting.

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/9601/8th.html

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


21 posted on 09/04/2005 8:12:36 AM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Samwise; Wneighbor; alfa6; PhilDragoo; radu; ...

Good morning everyone.

22 posted on 09/04/2005 8:16:39 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Two Years of Poetry.......)
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To: alfa6; All

Thanks for the info. I just googled "12 O'Clock High" and it appears the movie used B-17's.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041996/trivia


23 posted on 09/04/2005 8:19:24 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor
Good morning ladies. Flag-o-I see your 24 and raise you a 29-o-Gram.


24 posted on 09/04/2005 8:26:07 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Valin
2179 Nyota Uhura Nairobi Kenya, communications officer (Star Trek)

In best W.C. Fields voice..."Ah yeesss my boy"

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

25 posted on 09/04/2005 8:27:22 AM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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To: alfa6; Paleo Conservative
The Navy used a similar model with a single tail and two turret guns on top. Wonder why?
26 posted on 09/04/2005 8:32:23 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: texianyankee
Here is a rather interesting picture, probably the source of the confusion :-)

Probably a field modification of a "D" model B-24 in order to increase thge frontal gun power

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

27 posted on 09/04/2005 8:33:26 AM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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To: alfa6; SAMWolf; Iris7

I had the good fortune in my yoot to know a gentleman who had piloted both B-17's and B-24's over YerUp late in the war. IIRC he much prferred flying 17's.


28 posted on 09/04/2005 9:05:41 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: investigateworld
A pic of the PB4Y-2 Privateer for you. Note the ERCO nose turret and lack of top turrets so I am assuming that this is a restored ex-fire attack aircraft.

The Navy used the B-24 in two versions the PB4Y-1 which was a regular twin tailed B-24 and the -2 version. ABout 850 -2 models were made mostly at the end of WW-II. The single tail version of the B-24 was slightly more efficent than the twin tail version but not enough to go thru the trouble of changing the production lines in the middle of the war.

Almost forgot, the reason for the two top turrets was the Privateers were used in a lot of low level attacks on shipping. If enemy fighters appeared the PB4Y would drop down to the surface of the ocean or land. This tactic put the attacking fighters at a disadvantage and would of course negate the need for ventral protection.

Ah what the heck, I went and found a PB4Y-2 pic from 1949 showing the top two turrets and this one has Emerson nose and tail turrets, I think. A small number of PB4Ys are still in service, I think, as Fire Bombers. Hawkins & Powers in Wyoming operated about half a dozen Privateers as recently as 2002.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

29 posted on 09/04/2005 9:06:06 AM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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To: Valin
1964 "Gilligan's Island" begins its 98-show run on CBS


30 posted on 09/04/2005 9:16:59 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather


31 posted on 09/04/2005 9:21:35 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Morning, PE.

How's Bittygirl today??
what's Spiderboy doing, he is growning up so fast.


32 posted on 09/04/2005 9:23:50 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Two Years of Poetry.......)
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To: bentfeather

We went family reunioning yesterday. Bittygirl got to meet a half dozen cousins under 2. It's a big family Msdrby has. Spiderboy got his semi-annual cousin fix.


33 posted on 09/04/2005 9:33:28 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Ah, I just bet the kids charmed the cousins. :)


34 posted on 09/04/2005 9:37:37 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Two Years of Poetry.......)
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To: investigateworld

two turret guns on top. Wonder why?

Probably because they were flying singly on recon/intel grathering and needed to extra firepower.


35 posted on 09/04/2005 9:40:39 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Professional Engineer
The eternal question Ginger, or Mary Ann?

And for the ladies Mr. Howell, or the Professor?

36 posted on 09/04/2005 9:44:11 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

Well, that's a picture of Maryann which isn't showing. ;-(


37 posted on 09/04/2005 9:48:39 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Valin; alfa6
Thanks for the info. I had an uncle who was Nav/Bom on a Catalina. Sadly I never had the chance to talk with him about his war experiences.
38 posted on 09/04/2005 9:53:10 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld

I had an uncle who was Nav/Bom on a Catalina.

Sounds like another subject for a thread.


39 posted on 09/04/2005 10:04:03 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: alfa6

Great pics! Thanks Alpha6.

Not as "classy" as the B-17 but still a good plane.


40 posted on 09/04/2005 2:13:20 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Threw jelly at cop; conviction: carrying congealed weapon)
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