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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers King Philip's War (1675-1676) - May 19th, 2005
American History Magazine
| April 2004
| Glenn W. LaFantasie
Posted on 05/18/2005 10:23:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Hi folks. Hope all is well in the birding world.
Sounds to me as if Ward Churchill ought to change his story and say he's from King William's band of Indians. No one left alive to dispute the tale.
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; AZamericonnie; Aeronaut; E.G.C.; GailA; alfa6; PzLdr; The Mayor; ...
Speaking of cunning, murderous invaders, Daniel Pipes quotes the chairman of CAIR [Concentrated Arrogance & Ignorance in Religion]:
CAIR Chairman Omar M. Ahmad told a crowd of California Muslims in July 1998, "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."
King Philip is to be commended for an exellent name, for spelling it correctly.
He failed to grasp the importance of alliances, something which is at the core of The Discovery and Conquest of Mexico 1517-1521 by Bernal Diaz Del Castillo
In defense of whites vis a vis Indians [note the politically incorrect term in the American History Magazine article]: thirty years ago in the road house here The Line Camp where Lola [not her real name] and I danced to everybody from Tito Puente to Taj Mahal a busboy Tommy Vigil told me how his Indian [!] father and Spanish mother made him a coyote despised by both cultures. He wound up sitting outside freezing to death after one family fight. A tragedy as he was certainly not despised outside that family.
I enjoyed the tape my sister sent of a lecture to "health care professionals" by a self-described "New York cardiologist" [we get those here] who did his volunteer work on a New Mexico "reservation" where a "medicine man" lay dying in the clinic. The people came to get him for fiesta and the doc was so impressed by the elder's beating the lethal diagnosis to make it to fiesta he told the old man, "I'll see you tomorrow." "No, you won't," replied the medicine man. And of course he died in the morning, having lived just for his people and his fiesta.
So let us bring back the traditional English reward for treason, being the community coming together to hack the traitor to pieces.
1890 Ho Chi Minh leader of Vietnam// Communist Thug (1946, 1969)
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05/19/2005 2:42:36 PM PDT
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PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Iris7; Valin
Evening Grace Folks~
Very informative read of our earliest settlers and the travails with the "Native Americans". It's almost as though we're reading about the British rather than Americans.
Meanwhile, the frontier exploded from Connecticut to Maine with one Indian attack after another.
This really puts in perspective how early this war was. As adept as King Philip was in his battles with the early settlers, it's strange that at the height of his career he would not think to post any sentries around his camp. Death wish?
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05/19/2005 5:13:43 PM PDT
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w_over_w
(Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Snippy just got her official, government approved, State of Oregon, Motor vehicle Operators license. :-)That's a good thing . . . right? I mean you don't have chauffeur her around Oregon anymore! ;^)
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posted on
05/19/2005 5:17:08 PM PDT
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w_over_w
(Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.)
To: Valin
1977 "Smokey & the Bandit" premieres
Jog my memory . . . what was the ONLY reason that "Bandit" would remove his cowboy hat???
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05/19/2005 5:25:39 PM PDT
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w_over_w
(Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.)
To: w_over_w
Sure it's a good thing, I still get to be the driver, it's a guy thing. ;-)
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05/19/2005 6:22:51 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: alfa6
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posted on
05/19/2005 6:23:43 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: E.G.C.
Evening E.G.C.
Been raining on and off all day. Got a few good downpours.
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05/19/2005 6:24:27 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: GailA
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posted on
05/19/2005 6:24:49 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: Professional Engineer
LOL! Oh No! We're in the land of the little people.
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05/19/2005 6:25:16 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: xJones
They used the long term "Tobacco habit" to get their revenge. ;-)
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05/19/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.
And we let them spew that garbage in the name of "diversity". GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
We're being invaded by Mexico and by Islam while our government sits back and worries about the "steriods" crisis in sports.
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05/19/2005 6:30:38 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: Professional Engineer
Evening PE. Looks like the "ship of the future" is getting real close.
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05/19/2005 6:31:13 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: Valin
1979 "In The Navy" by Village People hits #3 I used to "bug" Roger with that song all the time. ;-)
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05/19/2005 6:36:39 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: Victoria Delsoul
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05/19/2005 6:36:59 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: colorado tanker
Sounds to me as if Ward Churchill ought to change his story and say he's from King William's band of Indians. LOL! I heard the Cherokee disowned him :-)
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05/19/2005 6:37:56 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: w_over_w
Sadly it's probably a part of our history that is only taught in the New England States.
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05/19/2005 6:39:24 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
(Why can't we just spell it orderves?)
To: SAMWolf; PzLdr; PhilDragoo; snippy_about_it; All
"King Philip's War" has become an icon of political correctness in American historiography.
"Political Correctness" requires "War is Wrong", whatever that means. As Clausewitz pointed out, war is normal politics, everyday life, where the killing gets organized. Wholesale instead of retail, sort of.
The cutting of the Gordian Knot by Alexander is a metaphor of this, that politics becomes so tangled and intractable that the sword is the only answer.
As Douglas MacArthur quoted Plato (can't find the quote myself) "Only the dead have seen the last of war."
Churchill said that "Jaw, Jaw, is better than War, War." Well, sure, as long as you are the one getting what you want.
Really, war is just everyday life. Nothing more human, or cat like, dog like, cow like, bird like, etc., etc., than to seek to dominate others of your kind. Nothing more human, etc., etc., than to resent others attempting to dominate you. Politics. Humans just have a more abstract language than the rest of the critters.
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05/19/2005 10:13:41 PM PDT
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Iris7
(A man said, "That's heroism." "No, that's Duty," replied Roy Benavides, Medal of Honor.)
To: Iris7; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; PzLdr; colorado tanker; alfa6; Valin; Professional Engineer
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05/19/2005 10:35:48 PM PDT
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PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: w_over_w
I mean you don't have chauffeur her around Oregon anymoreLOL. Hey, I still had my Ohio license, Sam drives because I can't figure my way around all these mountains and valleys and hills. I'm used to flat land!
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05/19/2005 10:36:41 PM PDT
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snippy_about_it
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