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Forfeiture laws turn public officials into profiteers
Human Events ^ | August 15, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 08/17/2013 1:41:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

The case highlights the dangers of marrying policing and profit. “The profit incentive is so incredibly dangerous,” said Scott Bullock, legal counsel for the libertarian-oriented Institute for Justice, which is representing the Jalalis. He told me that officials “set aside policy goals and go after the money,” especially in tough budgetary times.

The case also illustrates the inherent problems when a nation’s laws are so contradictory and confusing that well-meaning people can’t easily follow them.

One can debate medical-marijuana law. It’s an unsettled matter that is winding its way through the courts. Even the federal prosecutor handling the case admitted as much in a December hearing explaining how his office got involved: “Our cities are being overrun with this issue. They [Anaheim officials] can’t really decide what the state law is and how it’s going to apply. So, U.S. government, can you step in and help us out?”

But in going to the feds, city officials ignored California’s crystal-clear civil-forfeiture law, which only allows cities to seek the forfeiture of property if it is tied to a criminal conviction. Anaheim didn’t seek clarity from the federal government. It sought a federal end-run that applies a looser standard and allows the city to keep 80 percent of the proceeds. This was about profits, not legal clarity.

Fair-minded officials would try to sort through the law and give its citizens a reasonable chance to comply with it. Instead city and federal officials saw the confusion as a chance to backfill their budgets. Perhaps the word “revenuers” isn’t strong enough to apply to those who would use government power to take away the property of law-abiding citizens.


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1 posted on 08/17/2013 1:41:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; LdSentinal; Viennacon; bamahead; ...

We were warned that the asset forfiture laws would eventually become used as a weapon in pursuit of more money for the government to spend. With the Great Recession leaving governments financially strapped, look for more abuse of these laws in the coming years if it isn’t repealed.


2 posted on 08/17/2013 1:45:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Government looting: not what hundreds of thousands of Americans fought and bled and died to protect.
3 posted on 08/17/2013 1:59:41 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Standing Wolf

The DEA and the US Marshal Service thank you for your contribution. I wonder what an audit of the forfeiture / seizure programs might reveal if you ran the VINs and serial numbers of all the luxury vehicles, boats, and aircraft to see whose hands they ended up in. I bet there would be a lot of ‘splainin’ to do with officials ducking and running for cover.


4 posted on 08/17/2013 2:05:57 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Clintonfatigued
He told me that officials “set aside policy goals and go after the money,” especially in tough budgetary times.

And then the policy stays in place even in good times because these LEOs now have a secondary source of revenue without going through those pesky hoops of bureaucracy! Forfeiture is administrative theft as opposed to judicial declaration.

5 posted on 08/17/2013 2:51:41 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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6 posted on 08/17/2013 2:56:45 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Privatizing prisons, law enforcement, photo / speed cameras will not always serve us, and instead it may lead to those with such authority coming to take advantage of what is yours for their profit, just as Blackwater did in Katrina with firearms.

We need government by and of the people that is responsive and honest and the people need the right to challenge any theft of property.


7 posted on 08/18/2013 4:57:20 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: Clintonfatigued

Simple way to fix that. Real simple.


8 posted on 08/18/2013 5:34:47 PM PDT by bayouranger (Those Who Are Anti-Islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Check out the picture in post # 6.


9 posted on 08/19/2013 2:52:13 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The SCOTUS said the government can take away your house for a 7-Eleven if it’d pay more taxes than you do.

It was one of the many BAD decisions from the so-called High Court


10 posted on 08/19/2013 2:54:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Clintonfatigued

It would be bad enough if every one was true blue, but about the only people who seek government jobs are most likely thieves in the first place.


11 posted on 08/22/2013 11:34:56 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: bayouranger

Simple way to fix that. Real simple.


How?


12 posted on 08/22/2013 11:38:12 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Clintonfatigued

Perhaps the word “revenuers” isn’t strong enough to apply to those who would use government power to take away the property of law-abiding citizens.


That should be for any citizen because it is impossible to believe in laws that the U.S. constitution is there to protect us from

No, i don,t think revenuers would be the word, i would call them whores.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 3:04:04 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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"..i would call them whores."

With a whore there is an exchange of services for something perceived as valuable.

Asset forfeiture all too often is simple fraud and extortion.

14 posted on 09/27/2013 9:43:51 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

With a whore there is an exchange of services for something perceived as valuable.

Asset forfeiture all too often is simple fraud and extortion.


You are right, i did not mean to insult the Professional Gals,
they are much more honest than the thieves in Government.


15 posted on 09/27/2013 10:55:42 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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