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Ron Paul: Our Liberties Come From Our Creator
Christian Post ^ | 2011-06-04 | Stephanie Samuel

Posted on 06/05/2011 6:54:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

At the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, presidential candidate Ron Paul used the Bible to show evangelicals why big government is bad and how their fight to protect faith and family are all rooted in liberty.

Paul roused the conservative Christian crowd on Friday as he recounted the story of the Israelites and their pleas for an earthly king. He used that story, found in 1 Samuel chapter eight, to explain to the faith conference why big government is morally wrong for America.

He told the crowd that the Israelites had a perfectly good family system prior to their first king and did not need a governing authority to care for them.

(snip)

In the Bible, the prophet Samuel advised against a king, enumerating the problems that arise if the Israelites did so. Paul loosely paraphrased those problems to illustrate the dilemmas that exist when you have a government that is taking power from the people.

"He says the king will take your young men and the young women to be used in the government. They're going to tax you. They're going to over burden you and you're going to have to work so much time, like 25, 35 45 percent of the time, for the king."

Samuel's thinking, he noted, was astute advice for then and now. Paul maintained that by demanding the American government to provide assistance for broken families, job creation and more, its citizens have essentially appointed a king over themselves.

(snip)

"We have, as a people, lost our confidence and our understanding of what true liberty is all about and where it comes from," he summed. "It doesn't come from the government. Our liberties come from our Creator."

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1 posted on 06/05/2011 6:55:00 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead
"We have, as a people, lost our confidence and our understanding of what true liberty is all about and where it comes from," he summed. "It doesn't come from the government. Our liberties come from our Creator."

bump!

2 posted on 06/05/2011 6:55:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Making a few good points on a single issue does not detract from the fact that Paul is a kook.


3 posted on 06/05/2011 6:57:05 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Well said, hg! Right on target!
4 posted on 06/05/2011 6:58:39 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rabscuttle385

We can either look to God to meet our needs and solve our problems or look to government. Look to God or government to protect you. Choose this day whom you will serve.


5 posted on 06/05/2011 6:58:49 AM PDT by all the best
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To: humblegunner
Making a few good points on a single issue does not detract from the fact that Paul is a kook.

And compare this to the current president, who makes no good points on any issue. By that measure alone Dr. Paul is a far superior candidate for president than 0bama ever will be.

6 posted on 06/05/2011 7:01:00 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rabscuttle385

The first question I had when reading this is;

By saying that Israel doesn’t need an earthly government is Ron Paul here alluding to his own desire to see the end of Israel?

He makes statements about them not needing an earthly government? With his anti-semitic background of supporting and appeasing terrorist nations and terrorist’s rights it makes me wonder.


7 posted on 06/05/2011 7:04:12 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: rabscuttle385

broken clock. He’s still a nutjob.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 7:06:39 AM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: pnh102
And compare this to the current president, who makes no good points on any issue. By that measure alone Dr. Paul is a far superior candidate for president than 0bama ever will be.

So is the wino begging for change outside the corner store.

That doesn't mean you wound want him as president, does it?

9 posted on 06/05/2011 7:13:07 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
So is the wino begging for change outside the corner store.

That doesn't mean you wound want him as president, does it?

Even that person would be a better choice than 0bama.

10 posted on 06/05/2011 7:18:08 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
Dr. Paul is a far superior candidate


11 posted on 06/05/2011 7:28:59 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: rabscuttle385

No one else running understands the limits placed on the federal government by the constitution like Dr. Paul.


12 posted on 06/05/2011 7:35:47 AM PDT by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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To: andyk
No one else running invents the limits placed on the federal government by the constitution like Dr. Paul.

There fixed it for you. The Founders never advocated for the strict isolationist vision of the pervert Paul and specifically gave the power of Commander-in-Chief to the President and not the Congress. The Founders would be appalled of the pervert Paul and his vision to treat homosexuality as equal to heterosexuality in our Armed Forces. The Founders would have strongly admonished the pervert Paul on his support for Iran's quest to gain nuclear bombs and for his support of a Victory mosque at Ground Zero.

13 posted on 06/05/2011 7:51:06 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: rabscuttle385

I prefer an atheist who is anti-terrorist, pro-market, pro-life, pro-family values and who is not the kind of atheist who targets just one religion out of spite while defending Islam, to a Christian who is either a socialist or soft on terror or who is anti-family. So I see this as a sign that Ron Paul has gone off the deep end.


14 posted on 06/05/2011 7:56:02 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
"He says the king will take your young men and the young women to be used in the government. They're going to tax you. They're going to over burden you and you're going to have to work so much time, like 25, 35 45 percent of the time, for the king."



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15 posted on 06/05/2011 8:10:27 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: TheBigIf

I’m willing to listen to rational arguments. However, what strikes me is the name-calling. We are doomed in 2012.


16 posted on 06/05/2011 8:18:33 AM PDT by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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To: andyk

Other than not realizing that the Fed can’t be audited by the President, that he supports $400 million in earmarks and believes that ethanol subsidies are a good idea. Right...he is our guy (sarc)


17 posted on 06/05/2011 8:28:46 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: chilepup
Other than not realizing that the Fed can’t be audited by the President, that he supports $400 million in earmarks and believes that ethanol subsidies are a good idea.

Ron Paul supports ethanol subsidies? I would like to see a cite for that, if you can. Presidential candidates always campaign on things they will accomplish while in office - it does not mean that they literally believe their office has the power in and of itself to do it. The earmarks is a legitimate argument. However, there is no one running that would request less money, and advocate for the elimination of entire departments, except for Paul. Can you name someone that would be better on the budget?
18 posted on 06/05/2011 8:45:02 AM PDT by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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To: rabscuttle385
Our Liberties Come From Our Creator

Preaching to the choir?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

19 posted on 06/05/2011 9:28:48 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: andyk

Yes, Cain, Palin, Bachmann, et al, would do better on a budget. Why? In Palins case, because she had to set them and stick to them while governor, and Cain, because of his extensive business background. Paul is a hack, who says one thing and does another...he has been doing this for 30 years while pulling the wool over people’s eyes. Besides, he was just appointed as Head of the Monetary sub-committee...this gives him the power to do the things he wants (audit the Fed, etc). Why would he want to give this up for a diminished leadership role as President?

Just look on this site a 2012’s for ethanol...you will see his support for the T. Boone Pickens boondoggle, and his “explanation” for this support.


20 posted on 06/05/2011 9:51:52 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: humblegunner
Making a few good points on a single issue does not detract from the fact that Paul is a kook.

He makes a few good points, but has NEVER done a thing the entire time he has been in Washington, except make points, (some good, most kooky) and get earmarks.
21 posted on 06/05/2011 9:57:14 AM PDT by John D
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To: pnh102
By that measure alone Dr. Paul is a far superior candidate for president than 0bama ever will be.

The only person worse than cut and run is obama.
22 posted on 06/05/2011 9:59:42 AM PDT by John D
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To: andyk
No one else running understands the limits placed on the federal government by the constitution like Dr. Paul.

He may understand, but the question is, "Has he EVER done anything about it?
23 posted on 06/05/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by John D
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To: andyk
Can you name someone that would be better on the budget?

Anybody, because everybody knows cut and run will never do anything. He has been in Washington for who knows how many years and accomplished absolutely NOTHING except acquire as many earmarks as possible.
24 posted on 06/05/2011 10:07:37 AM PDT by John D
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To: rabscuttle385; humblegunner; BlackElk
Oh, good....it had been a few days since we had a thread where the Paulbots could come slobbering about how great their little demigod is because he uttered some phrases again.

What has this guy ever actually done besides having endorsed people like Cynthia McKinney, Bob Barr, Adam Kokesh and other horrors, made wierd statements on the Alex Jones Show, and voted with the Democrats half the time? And that's when he bothers to vote. He abstains more often than not.

What has he ever really accomplished?

Nuttin'.

25 posted on 06/05/2011 10:08:21 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: rabscuttle385

After 35 years of listening to all the libertarian rants of Ron Paul, one thing is certain.

Ron Paul needs to be in a straight jacket and heavily sedated, 24-7!

That goes for his pinhead son too!


26 posted on 06/05/2011 10:12:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: TheBigIf
The first question I had when reading this is; By saying that Israel doesn’t need an earthly government is Ron Paul here alluding to his own desire to see the end of Israel? He makes statements about them not needing an earthly government? With his anti-semitic background of supporting and appeasing terrorist nations and terrorist’s rights it makes me wonder.

You're a little delusional, dude.

27 posted on 06/05/2011 10:13:29 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: John D

You are really a one-trick pony on this site.


28 posted on 06/05/2011 10:20:49 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: humblegunner

We could use another hundred or so kooks just like him in Congress right about now. I’ll tke his brand of kooky over Romney, Gingrich, or Bohner.

Hw about you?


29 posted on 06/05/2011 10:24:37 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
We could use another hundred or so kooks just like him in Congress right about now. I’ll tke his brand of kooky over Romney, Gingrich, or Bohner.

A hundred more kooks who want to blame America for every problem in the world? No thanks. The Republicans just gained control of the house. Why would you want the dems who are just like cut and run to take control again?
30 posted on 06/05/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by John D
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To: John D

Because, unlike you, I believe in limited Government. That’s why


31 posted on 06/05/2011 10:36:44 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Allegra
What has this guy ever actually done besides having endorsed people like Cynthia McKinney, Bob Barr, Adam Kokesh and other horrors, made wierd statements on the Alex Jones Show, and voted with the Democrats half the time? And that's when he bothers to vote. He abstains more often than not. What has he ever really accomplished? Nuttin'.

Considering the typical crap politicians accomplish, I'd say we could use a whole lot more that do nothing.

BTW, hope all's good. Haven't seen you on the forum in a while.

32 posted on 06/05/2011 10:40:50 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: Reagan Man
That goes for his pinhead son too!

What possible problem do you have with Rand??? He's been just about the most conservative member of the current Senate.

33 posted on 06/05/2011 10:43:15 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: Lurker

If cut and run would ever win our government would be limited alright. There would no longer be an America. Cut and run would assure a terrorist victory over America.


34 posted on 06/05/2011 10:43:31 AM PDT by John D
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To: John D

OK, if you’re going to call him “Cut and Run”, please at least be consistent with your capitalization. It’s really grating on my nerves.


35 posted on 06/05/2011 10:45:40 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813

He does not deserve to have his name capitalized. I also do not capitalize the king’s name either.


36 posted on 06/05/2011 10:48:42 AM PDT by John D
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To: humblegunner

Funny. All the people in that picture actually can make money and create jobs... something that 0bama has never done.


37 posted on 06/05/2011 10:49:46 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: John D
He does not deserve to have his name capitalized.

Then be consistent and never capitalize it. You're pissing me off.

38 posted on 06/05/2011 10:51:50 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813

I notice I do sometimes capitalize the c in cut, but only when cut is the first word in the sentence.


39 posted on 06/05/2011 10:53:46 AM PDT by John D
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To: jmc813

People who back anti-Americans like cut and run piss me off too.


40 posted on 06/05/2011 10:55:35 AM PDT by John D
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To: madmaximus

>>>broken clock. He’s still a nutjob

Ron Paul is nuttier than squirrel poop on a pistachio farm.


41 posted on 06/05/2011 10:56:49 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Lurker
Hw about you?

I think he's a kook. And his son is a geek studying to be a kook.

42 posted on 06/05/2011 11:06:10 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: John D
He makes a few good points, but has NEVER done a thing the entire time he has been in Washington, except make points, (some good, most kooky) and get earmarks.

Well you at least give him credit for something, and I agree. He does do a great job at putting earmarks in bills. I can not think of anyone better than him in that regard.
43 posted on 06/05/2011 11:14:32 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: humblegunner
And his son is a geek studying to be a kook.

Question, who is your ideal Senator currently? I'm starting to get the impression that you aren't very conservative.

44 posted on 06/05/2011 11:17:10 AM PDT by jmc813
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To: jmc813

You have my permission to get any impressions you wish.


45 posted on 06/05/2011 11:21:02 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: jmc813

Temper, temper. It sounds like somebody hit a nerve.


46 posted on 06/05/2011 11:23:21 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: Keith in Iowa
Ron Paul is nuttier than squirrel poop on a pistachio farm.

His being nutty does not bother me as much as his blame America first and Israel second for everything that is wrong attitude.
47 posted on 06/05/2011 11:28:07 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: jmc813
For starters, Rand Paul is a libertarian, NOT a conservative. Conservatives believe in defending America. Libertarians do not. And until January 2011, we had one “Doctor No” in Congress, now we have two. One kook was more than enough.

So far, the only real difference between Father and Son is that one has served 23 years in Congress and the one has served just 6-months. Ron Paul has done nothing in his time and I'd say Rand Paul will be just as worthless.

48 posted on 06/05/2011 11:59:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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49 posted on 06/05/2011 12:07:35 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Reagan Man

So whom might your favorite congressperson/Senator might be? I’m curious to know since you seem to favor politicians that get a lot done.


50 posted on 06/05/2011 12:14:42 PM PDT by jmc813
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