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Rise of the Ron Paul Republicans
North County Times ^ | Jan. 27, 2008 | Craig Combs

Posted on 01/27/2008 10:29:01 AM PST by jdm

Recently I was honored with the opportunity of speaking to the California Federation of Republican Women on behalf of presidential candidate Ron Paul. Surely, I thought, these ladies would understand the one issue that is driving so many young people to the GOP, the one issue that gets the loudest cheers from the audience wherever Ron Paul speaks, the one issue that no other presidential candidate is discussing except for Ron Paul.

No, I am not talking about Dr. Paul's call for an immediate withdrawal of our troops from the Middle East (I knew that these gentlewomen do not necessarily agree with his foreign policy of peace). I am talking about his vow to abolish the Federal Reserve Bank.

As it turned out, I was wrong. In fact, not one person in the audience could tell me who owned the bank that creates the currency we use every day. These ladies, who certainly should know better at this late stage of their lives, were shocked when I told them what is common knowledge to the young people joining the Ron Paul Revolution: The Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned corporation.

The Federal Reserve, an unelected and unaccountable private organization, pumps more dollars into the economy whenever it chooses. Basic economics tells us that the more there is of a commodity, the less valuable it becomes. This is also true of money: The dollar is worth 4 cents of what it was when the Federal Reserve was created in 1913. Every day, every dollar we hold is devalued. We pay an "inflation tax" without even realizing it because we are forced by a falling dollar to pay more for goods and services. Of all the presidential candidates, Republican or Democrat, only Dr. Paul is addressing this profound flaw in our economic system.

In 1802, then-President Thomas Jefferson wrote the following in a letter to Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Thomas Jefferson's words are proving prophetic indeed. Today, the economic bubbles created by the Fed have resulted in massive foreclosures across the country while China and Saudi Arabia, sitting on trillion-dollar sovereign wealth funds, snap up major interests in marquee American companies. America, once the world's greatest creditor nation, is now its greatest debtor.

Jefferson also stated in his letter to Secretary Gallatin that "the issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." Ron Paul, as well as the tens of thousands flocking to his campaign, is saying precisely the same thing: By legalizing competing currencies we can end the Federal Reserve's monopoly on our money supply and begin to restore value to the dollar.


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1 posted on 01/27/2008 10:29:03 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

If that’s his hotbutton issue, then it’s not surprising he can’t motivate folks.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 10:30:44 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: jdm; All

If Paul, who WILL NOT get the nomination, would get out of the way, we might be able to stop McCAin. A vote for Paul is a vote for McCain. He has NO republican support.

Latest Rasmussen:
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_republican_primary

As Florida voters seek to decide between the two frontrunners, support for other candidates is fading. Rudy Giuliani is a distant third at 18%, Mike Huckabee 12%, some other candidate, 5%, and Ron Paul 2%, someone else 5%.

Now, as for it being better that he got NONE of his legislation passed (he was hired as a legislator, remember!) Ron CO sponsored more legislation by liberals in congress than you will admit.

Here’s a few of the sillier ones. And he does PANDER to minority special interests ALOT.

From Paul’s website: “A co-sponsor is a Member of Congress who joins with the sponsor in originally introducing the legislation, or officially supporting it after the measure has been formally introduced to the Congress.”

. H.CON.RES.263 : Expressing the sense of Congress that any Presidential candidate should be permitted to participate in debates among candidates if at least 5 percent of respondents in national public opinion polls of all eligible voters support the candidate’s election for President or if a majority of respondents in such polls support the candidate’s participation in such debates. Sponsor: Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] (introduced 11/6/2001) Cosponsors (2) (NOTE: Ron wouldn’t be allowed in the debates if he’d gotten his way on this one.........)

H.RES.233 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico. Cosponsors (5) Latest Major Action: 9/5/2001

36. H.R.147 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude certain severance payment amounts from income.
Sponsor: Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (29)

H.R.415 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage new school construction through the creation of a new class of bond. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-46] (introduced 2/6/2001) Cosponsors (23)

92. H.R.648 : To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to exempt licensed funeral directors and licensed embalmers from the minimum wage and overtime compensation requirements of that Act. Sponso r: Rep Graham, Lindsey [SC-3] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (15) (A little ‘funeral home’ payola, there?)

6. H.RES.12 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States Postal Service should issue a postage stamp commemorating Juan Nepomuceno Seguin.
( WHO?) : Rep Green, Gene [TX-29] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (Cool

H.RES.208 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the systematic human rights violations in Cuba committed by the Castro regime and calling for the immediate removal of Cuba from the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. Sponsor: Rep Foley, Mark [FL-16] (introduced 4/30/2003) Cosponsors (24)(He wouldn’t vote for the same for Iran!)

H.RES.315 : Congratulating Rafael Palmeiro of the Texas Rangers for hitting 500 major league home runs and thanking him for being a role model for the Cuban American community, as well as for all Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] (introduced 7/9/2003) Cosponsors (14)

H.R.217 : To ensure that a Federal employee who takes leave without pay in order to perform service as a member of the uniformed services or member of the National Guard shall continue to receive pay in an amount which, when taken together with the pay and allowances such individual is receiving for such service, will be no less than the basic pay such individual would then be receiving if no interruption in employment had occurred. Sponsor: Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (97) (Only federal employees deserve this bonus????)

H.R.731 : To render all enrolled members of the Tohono O’odham Nation citizens of the United States as of the date of their enrollment and to recognize the valid membership credential of the Tohono O’odham Nation as the legal equivalent of a certificate of citizenship or a State-issued birth certificate for all Federal purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (119)(THIS IS HOW SOME TRIBES ARE GIVING CITIZENSHIP TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!)

H.CON.RES.160 : Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day, and expressing the sense of Congress that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and solving the challenges of the future. Sponsor: Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] (introduced 5/19/2005) Cosponsors (69) (You gotta be kidding me....)

H.CON.RES.206 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the President should temporarily suspend restrictions on remittances, gift parcels, and family travel to Cuba to allow Cuban-Americans to assist their relatives in Cuba in the aftermath of Hurricane Dennis.
Sponsor: Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] (introduced 7/12/2005) Cosponsors (70)

H.RES.730 : Recognizing the efforts and contributions of The Women’s Museum: An Institute for the Future.
Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] (introduced 3/16/2006) Cosponsors (16)

H.RES.760 : Supporting the goals and ideals of National Clean Beaches Week and recognizing the considerable value of American beaches and their role in American culture.
Sponsor: Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6] (introduced 4/4/2006) Cosponsors (59)

H.RES.1049 : Recognizing Ann Richards’ extraordinary contributions to Texas and American public life and offering condolences on her passing. (Fan of Ann Richards????)
Sponsor: Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] (introduced 9/27/2006) Cosponsors (12)

66. H.R.437 : To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 500 West Eisenhower Street in Rio Grande City, Texas, as the “Lino Perez, Jr. Post Office”. (Who? The Hispanic caucus wants it, so it must be okay!)
Sponsor: Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] (introduced 1/12/2007) Cosponsors (31)

SPONSORED

107th
H.CON.RES.206 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 7/31/2001) Cosponsors (Cool
Committees: House International Relations
H. CON. RES. 206

Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.

H.CON.RES.277 : Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 11/19/2001) Cosponsors (None)
107th CONGRESS

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Ron+Paul+co+spon


3 posted on 01/27/2008 10:34:18 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: jdm

Ron Paul certainly gets a rise out of Republicans.


4 posted on 01/27/2008 10:34:23 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: jdm

Paul’s somewhat premature. Wait till we have to buy wheelbarrows to carry the load of inflation.

But Paul’s good news - he increases, Rudolph decreases.


5 posted on 01/27/2008 10:36:16 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: AuntB

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul. I will be voting for Ron Paul in Florida.


6 posted on 01/27/2008 10:39:46 AM PST by CHATTAB
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To: ex-snook

Ron Paul is the only candidate who has the least bit of enthusiasm for his Candidacy, funny thing is, his platform was what Conservatism was about, small Govt, limited reach and scope, sound fiscal policy etc.

What we have running now is Country Club types running for Prez, some are better the others, but they certainly do not inspire confidence and enthusiasm in their supporters.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 10:42:01 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: jdm

Puleeeeeeeeeeeeeze give it a rest with this lunatic.


8 posted on 01/27/2008 10:44:39 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: jdm
Recently I was honored with the opportunity of speaking...

I know proper grammar has been sacrificed to the soundbyte, but shouldn't this read, "...was honored with the opportunity to speak..."

Oh, well. It's only logic.

And speaking of logic and its absence, mutilation, and/or dysfunction, there's this:

I am talking about his vow to abolish the Federal Reserve Bank.

9 posted on 01/27/2008 10:45:00 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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To: jdm
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Thomas Jefferson was one of the wealthiest men of his time, but even he would consider the people in the middle class for more fortunate than himself.

Indoor plumbing, electricity, t.v., internet, air travel, cars, cell phones; there's never been, in the history of the world, such a pampered society as we have built for ourselves; and to think we did it with the Federal Reserve.

10 posted on 01/27/2008 10:45:20 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: padre35

Hate him or like him, the man has balls.

In the Florida debate saying he would try to end Social Security. Balls.

At least ya know he Won’t increase the size of Gummit.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 10:47:14 AM PST by BGHater ('A Nation's best defense is an educated citizenry'-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: padre35

It’s amazing what passes for conservatism these days.


12 posted on 01/27/2008 10:47:25 AM PST by Womp Rat
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To: jdm
Rise? LOL...now that's funny!! Rise my arse.

U.S. Army Retired


13 posted on 01/27/2008 10:48:28 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Womp Rat
It’s amazing what passes for conservatism these days

I say the same thing when it comes to the Big Government Republicans and RINOS

14 posted on 01/27/2008 10:49:39 AM PST by Rush4U
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To: BGHater

He has balls, but he is a bad politician, he comes off poorly.

Our federal budget will surpass 3 trillion soon enough, and when the Baby Boomers hit the SS funds, that will balloon, his statement took guts, but people do not want to hear about tomorrow’s problems.

Abolish the Federal Reserve...that does give one a chuckle..


15 posted on 01/27/2008 10:53:45 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: jdm
I don't remember which one of the Banksters that was responsible for the fed reserve (I think there are 7 of them) had said this infamous quote back in the early 1900s; "I care not what Law any Government makes. Give me control of the money and we have control of any law government makes". I don't beleive this is completely accurate, but that was the gist of what he said. And I think it was a Rothchild.
16 posted on 01/27/2008 10:56:05 AM PST by enuf
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To: Womp Rat
It’s amazing what passes for conservatism these days.

Ain't that the truth? Dr. Paul, crazy old SOB or not, is offering TRUE conservatism; what it was meant to be.

The Republican and Democrat Sheep on all these boards, who keep voting in these same globalist traitors can shout all they want. It won't change the truth.

And by the way,...I don't think Ron Paul is near as crazy as Capn' John McQueeg.

17 posted on 01/27/2008 10:57:08 AM PST by Ranger Drew
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To: Womp Rat
It’s amazing what passes for conservatism these days.

When it comes to politicians and political parties, conservatism is no longer an issue of topic.

18 posted on 01/27/2008 11:00:19 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jdm

19 posted on 01/27/2008 11:02:44 AM PST by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: ALPAPilot
Thomas Jefferson was one of the wealthiest men of his time, but even he would consider the people in the middle class for more fortunate than himself.

I disagree.

I believe Mr. Jefferson was well aware of the fleeting nature of material conveniences, esp when compared to the beauty of true liberty.

I believe he would pity the "middle class" for being so lacking in character, and he would be disappointed in how the glorious legacy of the founders and framers has been squandered for the pursuit of pleasure.

And don't mistake these comments as addressing the nature and function of the Federal Reserve. They are not.

20 posted on 01/27/2008 11:06:26 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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To: Brilliant

Frankly I’m embarrassed to have in in my party.


21 posted on 01/27/2008 11:12:10 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Ranger Drew
" And by the way,...I don't think Ron Paul is near as crazy as Capn' John McQueeg."

I have to agree with you on that. McCain is simply not operating on all cylinders; however, Paul is out of touch with what is reality and I don't for a second believe that were he elected President, he could fix anything.

Maybe it's because we're too far gone.

22 posted on 01/27/2008 11:14:24 AM PST by penowa
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To: Ranger Drew
Ain't that the truth? Dr. Paul, crazy old SOB or not, is offering TRUE conservatism; what it was meant to be.

The Republican and Democrat Sheep on all these boards, who keep voting in these same globalist traitors can shout all they want. It won't change the truth.

And by the way,...I don't think Ron Paul is near as crazy as Capn' John McQueeg.

He is the only one candidate left who is offering true conservatism.

Unfortunately as someone else pointed out, he is not a good politician. Look at all of these Ron Paul threads where people have nothing substantial to add to the discussion. They think they're cute posting the same tired pictures making fun of Ron Paul over and over again. It's like they scan for these threads and just pop there head in to post a stupid picture. No substance.

These are the kind of voters that Ron Paul will never be able to get. They want slick politicians. It's going to be tough to ever find a good politician per say who also believes in true conservatism and limited government. The two attributes seem to be mutually exclusive.

23 posted on 01/27/2008 11:16:30 AM PST by Womp Rat
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To: enuf

I think it was a commie, and I’m not being flippant. Maybe Marx.


24 posted on 01/27/2008 11:23:43 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: jdm

I disagree with Paul on several things, but he has a point (to some degree) on the Fed. When I was a boy 30+ years ago, by neighborhood was filled with large, middle-class families who supported themselves on 1 income. Now, it takes two. Why? Feminism is somewhat responsible, but so too is excessive govt spending (and ever expanding money supply resulting in inflation) for many. What is the main cause of the two major financial problems for parents: education inflation and healthcare inflation? Same two answers again. The messenger is wrong, but SOME of his message is right. The more Repubs attack him, the more I think he must be hitting a nerve or two. That said, I wouldn’t vote for the antisemite...


25 posted on 01/27/2008 11:31:18 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: ALPAPilot

“Thomas Jefferson was one of the wealthiest men of his time”

Thomas Jefferson was arguably the most accomplished man who ever occupied the White House—naturalist, lawyer, educator, musician, architect, geographer, inventor, scientist, agriculturalist, and philologist. A true Renaissance man.

However, he died bankrupt. His finances were not on the top of his to do list.


26 posted on 01/27/2008 11:32:04 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: enuf

“Give me the power of the money and it will not matter
any more who is commanding”

- Mayer Amschel Rothschild


27 posted on 01/27/2008 11:36:11 AM PST by BGHater ('A Nation's best defense is an educated citizenry'-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: South40

Talk about an unbalanced ticket.


28 posted on 01/27/2008 11:36:19 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: PghBaldy

I should clarify the antisemitic charge - Paul just seems to attract the type who go on about Zionists. Not sure if he really hates Jews or is just playing a nasty game (like the Clintons with Obama). Heck, FDR railed against throwing the money-changers out of the temple. I disagree with the article though- there are many Ron Paul signs in my area (liberal, upper middle class) and they are people who would have supported Gore or Nader in the past - libs and leftists. It is the war that they care about. Not gold or the Fed. They do hate Israel though. If Paul would disavow himself of these freaks, he could be an important spokesman for original intent. As it is, he’s using these slugs to gather money and fame.

ALso, it appears a Rothschild said that famous quote about controlling a b=nation through it’s money.


29 posted on 01/27/2008 11:45:53 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: traderrob6

>Frankly I’m embarrassed to have in in my party.<

You should be embarrassed about what your party has become. Everything it was once against, starting with big government.


30 posted on 01/27/2008 11:51:56 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: PghBaldy

“When I was a boy 30+ years ago, by neighborhood was filled with large, middle-class families who supported themselves on 1 income. Now, it takes two.”

worth repeating - and add to this the disappearance of the tradtional family and we can add the costs of increased crime, child care, etc.


31 posted on 01/27/2008 11:56:37 AM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: jmaroneps37
Puleeeeeeeeeeeeeze give it a rest with this lunatic.

That "lunatic" is going to be a thorn in your side all the way to the convention, schooling the other RINOs what REAL conservatism is all about. And other than the possibility of Romney, he's the ONLY Republican who can destroy Hillary/Obama in the general election, as he will neutralize her on the war and stop the libertarians and swing voters from going 3rd party, all while retaining the conservative base.

Ron Paul may not win the nomination, but he has completely rewritten the script. I guarantee you that Paul will be given a chair at the convention, and Romney or whoever's nominated will HAVE to co-opt some of Paul's stands or they're not going to get his supporters. Paul has the GOP by the balls, and it's high time FR recognizes and appreciate what he has done here: He has expanded the GOP with new and young voters, he has returned the GOP back to its traditional roots, and he is the only candidate from either party talking about the real issues.

So go ahead and keep calling Paul a lunatic or anti-war moonbat, but you do so at your own peril.

32 posted on 01/27/2008 11:59:43 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: ALPAPilot
"Indoor plumbing, electricity, t.v., internet, air travel, cars, cell phones; there's never been, in the history of the world, such a pampered society as we have built for ourselves; and to think we did it with the Federal Reserve."

No kidding, all those were done with the Federal Reserve? You should author a book. Tell people how such amenities as electricity, indoor plumbing, airplanes and automobiles came to be as a result of the Federal Reserve.

It would be a phenomenal book when you reveal to your readers how the Federal Reserve accomplished these things before it was even created in 1913! The book will be riveting as it reveals the conspiracies that have led us to believe such people as Thomas Edison had anything to do with municipal electrical systems, Alexander Graham Bell anything to do with the telephone, or Henry Ford with mass production of automobiles. The book should also do well to strike down the notion of pressurized municipal water works before the Federal Reserve existed.

Heck, who knows, you might even hit stride by explaining to people how San Francisco burned to the ground following the 1908 earthquake, not because the water lines had broke, but because the water lines had never had any water. The city had just laid the lines waiting for a Federal Reserve to be created to bring pressurized water to the city.
33 posted on 01/27/2008 11:59:57 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: BGHater

Thanks, I knew the phrase was something along those lines.
Long time out of economics class.


34 posted on 01/27/2008 12:01:42 PM PST by enuf
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To: CHATTAB
"A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Ron Paul."

Now just a gosh darn minute there. The next thing you'll be telling me is that "A" is "A"!

36 posted on 01/27/2008 12:03:54 PM PST by trek
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To: padre35
They may be country club types but at least they’re not nut-jobs with a legion of nut-jobs following them around like a bunch of Jonestown zombies.
37 posted on 01/27/2008 12:04:36 PM PST by driveserve
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To: CHATTAB

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for a nut-job. I will not be voting for the nut job anywhere.


38 posted on 01/27/2008 12:05:42 PM PST by driveserve
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To: driveserve

Reduced to name calling only Mr. driveserve?

No insight? No searing point of fact?

Seems a touch vapid doesn’t it?


39 posted on 01/27/2008 12:09:57 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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I have little problems with Paul on size of government and the IRS and many economic issues.

these gentlewomen do not necessarily agree with his foreign policy of peace

neither do many gentlemen in the GOP. And it's stops us cold from taking Paul seriously for higher office.

40 posted on 01/27/2008 12:10:21 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: B4Ranch

“You should be embarrassed “

You should MYOB


41 posted on 01/27/2008 12:10:55 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: BGHater

It does not take “balls” to say something that no one hears.


42 posted on 01/27/2008 12:13:19 PM PST by driveserve
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To: padre35

“... but people do not want to hear about tomorrow’s problems.”

Including many Freeper, who mostly identify themselves as conservatives. They are nothing of the kind, and prove this by using the DU-like responses to the issues. Is it any wonder that the Republican party is in shambles?


43 posted on 01/27/2008 12:14:17 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I think it’s very balanced as they’re nearly identical.


44 posted on 01/27/2008 12:15:27 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Ranger Drew

Your “globalist traitors” remark says a lot about you, and it ain’t good.


45 posted on 01/27/2008 12:15:34 PM PST by driveserve
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To: padre35

It did that years ago. It was 4 trillion in the 80s. Now it’s 48 trillion.


46 posted on 01/27/2008 12:15:35 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Womp Rat

You got that right, brother. When “conservative” are no longer conservative, it is moot to discuss a resurgence of conservatism. Vote for your pocketbook and load up on ammunition, the American Experiment is coming to a painful conclusion.


47 posted on 01/27/2008 12:20:52 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: Womp Rat

I disagree. I think that Ron Paul is a joke. And like many jokes, there’s a lot of mileage left in them. That’s why he keeps getting the treatment he gets. When he goes (oh please, oh please, pretty please), we’ll move on to something else the lunatic-RonPaul-fringe brings to the table.


48 posted on 01/27/2008 12:20:52 PM PST by driveserve
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To: Harrius Magnus

And therein lays the problems, we have gotten scattered with each viewpoint looking out only for their own interests.

Unfortuantely, if we do not get our “merde’” straight, it will be the Clinton Coronation in 2009, make no mistake that will happen just by looking at the turnout numbers from the primaries.

Obama got TWICE the votes that John F Kerry did in SC, and that is even excluding the votes Hilde and the Silken Pony received..

There were 200,000 more Democrats who voted in SC then there were Republicans, same story in MI as well.

If we want Shamnesty and massive tax increases and National Healthcare, let us just continue to eat our own...


49 posted on 01/27/2008 12:21:30 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: freekitty

Size of the Budget is almost 3 trillion, the Debt and Deficit is that the 48 trillion number?

Either way, add in State and Country and Muncipality Taxes and we are heading for a calamity of Taxes if “We” do not change our policies and spending habits.


50 posted on 01/27/2008 12:23:52 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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