[Porterville]

This just in: Aging Nazis and Nazi decendents damn Schindler's list as a Anti-Kraut movie..... Say that Germans are only portrayed as killers even though they were killing other Germans..... That is all...

[John Beresford Tipton]

"accused the filmmakers of portraying Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as the ones responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus."

Whereas, everyone knows it was those Swiss and Samoan bastards!

[ChemistCat]

If he indeed "stuck to the script" then this is really an assault on the Christian Bible.

I think any people in the world would do what was done to Christ. I have yet to see a people that does not have innocent blood on their hands. If the Jews want us to think they are better than that, they'd best come up with some proof that they DID NOT wave palm fronds at a man named Jesus from Nazareth one day, and cry for his blood the next.

I'm ready. Show me the proof that the events in the New Testament up to the Crucifixion* did not happen and never could have happened. Anybody? Hello? I'm waiting.


* Hey, I'm fair, I don't expect Jewish folk to disprove the Resurrection--for if they believed it they would be Christian!

[dts32041]

Ah you mean it wasn't the Fascist Islamists who killed jesus?

[onedoug]

And other prominant Jews have seen it and say no such thing.

Gee...'guess I'll have to make up my own mind. What a concept!

[ppaul]

"that the film, if released in its present form, will fuel the hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism that many responsible churches have worked hard to repudiate."

Yeah.
We should be following the Fuhrer's lead in banning degenerate art, right?

[cpprfld]

I hope this fund raising attempt by the ADL backfires on them.

[Captiva]

When will people realize that it doesn't matter WHO killed Jesus?

[exmarine]

There is no no such thing in the U.S. Constitution or America as a "right not to be offended." So, if jewish groups don't like it, don't watch it! Otherwise, I don't care what they think. This is just pure unadulterated bias. There is no real fear this will cause a wave of anti-semitism. If they were really worried about anti-semitism, they would be as vociferous against the United Nations, France, and the European Union. The ADL is the same group that called Billy Graham anti-semitic -they are not credible and really do not even register on the laugh meter.

[PoorMuttly]

Anyone aware of any other reviews of traditional Christian-themed movies by this organization ?

[Last Visible Dog]

And Pilate, calling together the chief priests, and the magistrates, and the people, Said to them: You have presented unto me this man, as one that perverteth the people; and behold I, having examined him before you, find no cause in this man, in those things wherein you accuse him. No, nor Herod neither. For I sent you to him, and behold, nothing worthy of death is done to him. I will chastise him therefore, and release him. Now of necessity he was to release unto them one upon the feast day. But the whole multitude together cried out, saying: Away with this man, and release unto us Barabus: Who, for a certain sedition made in the city, and for a murder, was cast into prison. And Pilate again spoke to them, desiring to release Jesus. But they cried again, saying: Crucify him, crucify him. And he said to them the third time: Why, what evil hath this man done? I find no cause of death in him. I will chastise him therefore, and let him go. But they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified; and their voices prevailed. And Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they required.

- Luke Chapter 23

Help me out here, weren't the chief priests, and the magistrates, and the people and "whole multitude" all Jews? What do they want Mel to do? Change the story so it is more pc, hip, and up-to-date. Pilate may have been the authority that carried out the execution of Jesus but it was the Jewish hierarchy that wanted Jesus dead (because he challenged their authority and power)

[FreedomSurge]

Anit Christian hatred is widespread throughout the Jewish community. What this movie is doing is bringing out into the open this hatred.

[PaulJ]

I think the ADL had their minds made up before the lights dimmed.

[TheCrusader]

I know that the revisionists have been able to dilute the gospel, but denying any Jewish culpability in Christ's death is just plain assinine.

It was the Jews who paid Judas 30 pieces of silver to betray Him, it was the Jews who arrested Jesus; it was the Jews who bound Him and paraded Him to Herod and Ciaphus, spit on Him, beat Him. It was the Jews who marched Christ to Pilate and demanded His death. Pilate made no fewer than five attempts to save Jesus' life. He had Jesus scourged, hoping to quench the bloodlust of the mob of Jews, to no avail. Pilate wanted to release Jesus as part of his annual pardoning of a criminal, but the Jews demanded Barabas instead. Again and again Pilate confronted the Jews and said: "I find no crime in this man". Pilates wife also urged him to spare Jesus, due to a dream she had. The Jews would not be sated, they wanted Jesus' death and nothing else. (Earlier, the Jews tried to push Christ off a cliff, and stone Him, but were unable). The Jews threatened Pilate with Ceasar's name, saying it was illegal to have any King other than Ceasar, and that Jesus said He was a king. "HIS BLOOD BE UPON US AND UPON OUR CHILDREN", the Jews shouted; (Mathew 27:25) - at which time Pilate finally washed his hands of the matter and let the Jews have their way.

Though it can be said that our sins put Christ to the Cross, or that He allowed it freely; it can be said with historical certainty that the Jews were physically responsible for Christ's death. To take away their culpablility and try to put it on the Romans is a damnable lie. The A.D.L. are the modern Pharisees, once again seeking to crucify the Truth. Still, I don't see why today's Jews are upset with the historical reality of the gospels. What are they worried about anyway? Should history and the Scripture be reivsed to soothe the fears of the ADL?

[redrock]

SO...the ADL hates the film???

Too bad.

I'll go see it anyway........

redrock

[Question_Assumptions]

Mel should simply put a disclaimer in front of the movie saying that the modern Jews should not be held responsible for the acts of a sect of Jews 2000 years ago. End of story.

[DPB101]

Religious scholars who had seen the film's screenplay have expressed a similar opinion.

One of those "scholars" is Amy-Jill Levine who says she has "a commitment to exposing and expunging anti-Jewish, sexist and heterosexist theologies."¹

The Catholic "scholars"--Mary C. Boys, Philip A. Cunningham, Lawrence E. Frizzell and John T. Pawlikowski--are more or less on the same page. They all work together touring the nation giving speeches on the sins of Christians.

[novacation]

I hadn't intended to see the film. But there have been so many whining, bitching posts about this film that there must be something, true or not, that the cry babies don't want us to see. I think Gibson is an honest man. The gang mentality has reached the saturation point.Quit whining.

[cmsgop]

But a Gay Bishop is OK? Not directed at you paul.....

[Dog Gone]

The bizarre thing is by overplaying the victim role and demanding changes to a movie, they might actually fan some anti-semitism. Cripes, make your own movie and it can depict whatever you want.

As Ah-nold would say, "QUEET WHINING!!!" I would never have thought of the movie in terms of whether a whole group of people was responsible for Christ's death. But when I see it, now I will. How's that for unintended consequences?

Besides, who really cares? Today's Jews are no more responsible for his death, than I am for slavery in the South 150 years ago. In any event, Christians believe that Christ came here to be killed. Blaming Jews or Romans for the plan is just logically crazy. Do Christians wish that Jesus died of cancer at age 85 instead?

I don't understand the controversy on so many levels.

[aruanan]

Jewish Group Sees Gibson Film, Damns It

accused the filmmakers of portraying "Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as the ones responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus."

In other words, "...accused the filmmakers of sticking to the historically accurate details about the torture and crucifixion of Jesus." Looks as though they're up to the same tricks they were back in 33AD.

[Uri’el-2012]

accused the filmmakers of portraying "Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as the ones responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus." Religious scholars who had seen the film's screenplay have expressed a similar opinion.

It was not just the romans and Jews of that day

It is everyone from all time who wish to accept His shed blood for their sins.

It is my fault !

Blame me !

chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>

[jackbill]

Two questions:

1. Have any of these "Officials of the Anti-Defamation League" ever read the New Testament?

2. If so, do they accept it as a "legitimate" version of history?

[Conservative til I die]

I don't get it, the Jews *were* the ones who conspired to get Jesus arrested and killed.

[FixitGuy]

I have always believed that "Mankind" killed Christ.

They just happened to be Jews.

Maybe Christ should have come to Iraq????

[RobbyS]

From reading their press release, one knows that they had their minds made up before they saw the film.

[TradicalRC]

Would they feel the same way if there was a scripturally accurate portrayal of Saul pursuing David or Absolom attacking David? Or is it just anti-Semitic for Christians to take their own scripture seriously?

[Antoninus]

As a Roman, I object to this Anti-Romanic film.

[narses]

A "trad" ping. I'm not sure what a "trad" is or why it is bad, but here is an article of interest to the Catholic Caucus, at least imho.

[saradippity]

Bump for later.

[Dajjal]

God bless Mel!

[bluelowrider57]

The Jews only physicaly, not spiritualy, killed Jesus. If they wouldnt have killed him, who would be our saviour? Plus, the Jewish holy book says to kill any prophet acting as God, and Jesus fit it perfectly. But in another spot, it says to spare the saviour of Israel.

Why do these guys get hyped up.

[Gophack]

The ADL does not believe that the New Testament is the Word of God and therefore why should any Christian care what they think? Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, that He was sent from the Father to save mankind. They are still waiting for the Messiah.

I read Deal Hudson's commentary after he screened The Passion and he found it an accurate portrayal of the Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I commend Mel Gibson for standing up and defending the faith, defending Christianity. He had to have known going into this project that all the forces of evil -- willing and unwilling -- will seek to prevent this visual portrayal of the death of our Savior from being shown to the people. Satan knows that visual imagery is very important to human beings, and will stop at nothing to stop The Passion from converting and re-converting the minds and hearts of God's Children.

We must all pray for Mel Gibson and those involved in the making of this movie because they will be continually villified in the press and among the secular population. They need the protection of St. Michael the Archangel to help them through these times, and always.

God bless.

[xzins]

The Jewish authorities and that particular mob WERE responsible for the crucifixion. Of course, Pilate was the one who gave the order.

However, can it not be seen that those were the OPPONENTS of Jesus. All, every single one, of Jesus' allies WERE JEWISH.

There are 3 groupings of Jews to consider in the crucifixion.

1. Those who WEREN'T there. This is probably the largest group by far. I doubt that life was any different than now. Many Americans, for example, have opinions about Judge Roy Moore's 10 commandments monument. MOST (by far) will not be in Alabama for the showdown. In the case of Jesus, there were probably some absent Jews who were in favor of Jesus, some who were opposed, and some who were neutral.

2. Those who were IN FAVOR of Jesus AND present. This included AT LEAST the numbers mentioned in the texts who were around the cross, in the crowd, etc. It probably includes others.

3. Those who were OPPOSED to Jesus AND present. This includes the religious authorities who were in opposition (Joseph Arimathea & Nicodemus(?) not opposed.) It also includes their disciples. At the hearing before Pilate they appear to have outnumbered the supporters.

ALL OF THESE WERE JEWS.

Jesus' Jewish opponents and Pilate were the nexus that brought about the death of Jesus that particular day.

[NewLand]

Has anyone posted posted a link for a trailer to this movie?

If not, here is one to check out:

The Passion