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Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
The Globe and Mail ^ | Aug. 1, 2003 | CAROL HARRINGTON

Posted on 08/02/2003 12:46:01 PM PDT by Land of the Irish

Calgary — The Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops is upset with Calgary Bishop Fred Henry for saying Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's soul is in jeopardy because of a federal draft same-sex marriage bill.

"It's not the sort of language that the rest of the bishops would employ," said Monsignor Peter Schonenbach, the conference's general secretary Friday.

"My own stance on this and the stance of the bishops is that judgment is basically in God's hands and not in ours."

Even though the conference, which represents about 100 active bishops in Canada, does not entirely agree with Bishop Henry's statements, it does not have the authority to reprimand him.

"It's his prerogative, he's an independent bishop," Monsignor Schonenbach said from Ottawa. "But anything that doesn't represent the real overall picture is certainly not helpful."

The controversy started Wednesday when Bishop Henry said that Mr. Chrétien, a Catholic, could burn in hell for allowing same-sex marriages. He further elaborated at a press conference Thursday, saying: "I pray for the Prime Minister because I think his eternal salvation is in jeopardy."

Bishop Henry could not be reached for comment about Monsignor Schonenbach's statement but told CBC Newsworld he was unrepentant about his strong condemnation of the Liberal same-sex marriage bill.

"[There] is a sense of build-up on behalf of Catholic people who have been saying 'Bishop, when is someone going to say something to our Catholic politicians with respect to their responsibilities?'" Bishop Henry said in the TV interview.

"The whole process was accelerated by the release of the Vatican of these considerations of the obligations and duties of Catholic politicians with respect to same-sex marriage legislation."

Mr. Chrétien's Liberal government has said it will legislate same-sex marriages this fall but has referred a draft bill to the Supreme Court for a constitutional review. The bill would legally allow marriage between two people regardless of their gender.

A spokeswoman for Mr. Chrétien said the Prime Minister's primary responsibility is to the Canadian public, not his religious faith, and stressed that there must be a separation between the church and state.

However, some Liberal MPs say they intend to campaign against the legislation.

This is certainly not the first time that Bishop Henry has jumped into the political and social fire and railed against a government.

Soon after Bishop Henry moved to Calgary from Thunder Bay, Ont. in 1998, he slammed Premier Ralph Klein's government for expanding video lottery terminals, saying it exploited the weak, turning them into gambling junkies.

He has also accused Mr. Klein's Tories of short-changing students by improperly funding education.

Last April, he issued a memo to the diocese stating that lengthy personal eulogies at Catholic funerals are not acceptable.

"Quite frankly," said Monsignor Schonenbach, "Bishop Henry is known for using language that sometimes is a little bit different from what other bishops would use."

Willi Braun, a religion history professor at the University of Alberta, pointed out that the media often calls upon Bishop Henry when covering stories of political and social importance.

"I know it's very, very tempting to dial up a guy who is going to give you a juicy quote," Mr. Braun said. "The media ought to say that he is extreme in his views, and they do not represent the church as a whole."

Irving Hexham, a professor of religious studies at the University of Calgary, said he was surprised at Bishop Henry's blunt statements on Mr. Chrétien. But he noted Bishop Henry's remarks reflect what the Catholic Church has been teaching for centuries.

"The Pope has done this on a number of occasions," he said.

"Henry is simply being honest and good for him. At least people know where he stands."


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But he noted Bishop Henry's remarks reflect what the Catholic Church has been teaching for centuries.
1 posted on 08/02/2003 12:46:02 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Alberta's Child; Aloysius; AniGrrl; Bellarmine; Dajjal; Canticle_of_Deborah; Domestic Church; ...
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2 posted on 08/02/2003 12:47:31 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
"It's not the sort of language that the rest of the bishops would employ," said Monsignor Peter Schonenbach, the conference's general secretary Friday.

"My own stance on this and the stance of the bishops is that judgment is basically in God's hands and not in ours."

"It's his prerogative, he's an independent bishop," Monsignor Schonenbach said from Ottawa. "But anything that doesn't represent the real overall picture is certainly not helpful."

Since when does a mealy-mouth Monsignor out-rank a bishop? We need bishops willing to challenge the heretical national "conferences". I don't think we have anyone like that in the US.

3 posted on 08/02/2003 1:33:33 PM PDT by Longshanks (It's a republic... if you can keep it.)
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To: Land of the Irish
since he's in danger of judgement for being pro abortion, I don't think he's worried about being pro gay marriage...
4 posted on 08/02/2003 2:46:18 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Land of the Irish
Just think, in 20 years in Canada, they'll be interning priests like Bishop Henry for saying such things.
5 posted on 08/02/2003 7:30:47 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: Conservative til I die
"Just think, in 20 years in Canada, they'll be interning priests like Bishop Henry for saying such things."

It won't take that long.
6 posted on 08/02/2003 9:05:09 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Land of the Irish
Oh for the days of St. Ambrose and Gregory the VII, when prelates could chew out emperors for their sins and make them wear sackcloth and ashes!
7 posted on 08/03/2003 10:45:11 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Oh for the days of St. Ambrose and Gregory the VII, when prelates could chew out emperors for their sins and make them wear sackcloth and ashes!

Amen!

8 posted on 08/03/2003 11:12:54 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
**Calgary Bishop Fred Henry**

This guy deserves our support!
9 posted on 08/03/2003 11:18:42 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Unam Sanctam
**Oh for the days of St. Ambrose and Gregory the VII, when prelates could chew out emperors for their sins and make them wear sackcloth and ashes!**

Bumping that idea! Thinking about what Clinton would have looked like! LOL! And Hillary? ROTFLOL!
10 posted on 08/03/2003 11:20:35 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Land of the Irish
Time to FReep 'em!

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11 posted on 08/03/2003 11:25:34 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**Calgary Bishop Fred Henry**

This guy deserves our support!

He most certainly does, please keep the good bishop in your prayers.

12 posted on 08/03/2003 11:28:01 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; Salvation; Loyalist
Yes he does. He's a courageous man.

Loyalist, do you know much about Bishop Henry?

13 posted on 08/03/2003 12:07:45 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Land of the Irish
"My own stance on this and the stance of the bishops is that judgment is basically in God's hands and not in ours."

This idiot and spiritual eunuch passes for a bishop these days, does he?

Presumptuous though it may be, let me remind his Excellency that part of his job is to help Catholics approach that final judgement properly prepared. Bishop Henry's warning to Prime Minister Chretien can only be described by any properly formed Catholic as an act of mercy, in that it warns the PM of serious and eternal consequences of his actions which he seems to be forgetting. That is one of the ways good pastors help their flock get to heaven.

A bishop shrugging his shoulders and feigning ignorance about God's opinion on this topic, especially coming on the heels of a very explicit Vatican restatement of the Church's constant teaching on the matter, rises to a level of spiritual neglect bordering on abuse.

14 posted on 08/03/2003 1:56:38 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Unam Sanctam
Oh for the days of St. Ambrose and Gregory the VII, when prelates could chew out emperors for their sins and make them wear sackcloth and ashes!

I'm rather partial to Saint Bernard of Clairveaux myself.

15 posted on 08/03/2003 2:06:23 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Fred Henry is not known for his reticence.

He has already banned one former Prime Minister (Joe Clark, who is a Calgary native) from speaking in schools or receiving a Catholic burial in his diocese. He's backed priests who have refused to witness marriages of couples who have no intention of having children or otherwise living the faith (including one woman who was a Planned Parenthood employee).

He's also gone head-to-head with the Alberta government on economic and social policy.

He was auxiliary in London, Ont. under the hyper-liberal John Sherlock and rector of St. Peter's Seminary in the mid-80's, and bishop of Thunder Bay, Ont. before heading to Calgary.

When he was in Thunder Bay, he raised a public furore when nurses at the local public hospital were forced to participate in abortions and the hospital backed down.

Bishop Henry might well be Cardinal Henry in three years time when Ambrozic retires in Toronto.

16 posted on 08/03/2003 5:28:22 PM PDT by Loyalist
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