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TULIP and why I disagree with it
Volitional Theology ^ | Unknown | Ron Hossack

Posted on 07/28/2003 1:24:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration

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To: fortheDeclaration; lockeliberty; CCWoody; Dr. Eckleburg; drstevej; Wrigley; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; ...
So, what part of Justice do you not understand?

LOL! I understand it better than you! You're the one who babbles on about "fairness".

Just as I thought, a raving lunatic!

Because I understand that God's Justice is a higher concept that your "fairness"? Because I understand that none of us deserves anything but hell for our sins? Because I recognize that it was the Grace of God that led me to repentance? That I didn't choose Him, but He chose me? That I didn't "make a decision for Christ", but that He sovereignly opened my eyes, and renewed my heart so I COULD believe? Because I recognize that if He hadn't done that, I NEVER would have chosen Him? Is that what it means to be a "raving lunatic"? Is that what you mean?

See Gen.18:25, shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

And what was the outcome of that? God readily agreed that he would spare the city for 50, 45, 40, 30, 20, or even 10 righteous people. God didn't find any except Lot and his family, and even some of them were questionable, So God took Lot's family out, and destroyed the place. And this makes your point, exactly how? According to you, God was unjust for destroying even one of those people, because He could have saved them. God said He wouldn't destroy the righteous with the wicked, but He certainly had no qualms about destroying the wicked, once the righteous were taken out. How does this fit with your "God wants every man to be saved" idea?

Following the Calvinistic Cabal tactic of saying anything when your position has been shown to be non-Biblical hogwash. So, when Adam sinned was he obeying or disobeying God? He was after all, doing only what God wanted him to do now wasn't he? When you have an answer for that, you can ping me.

You want an answer? Here it is: Adam disobeyed God. That's so obvious it hurts! Let me ask you a question: Did God know Adam would disobey? A simple yes or no is all that is needed. Anything more than that is spin.

You have a real truth problem. You also have a comprehension problem. I pray the Lord helps you with both.

421 posted on 08/19/2003 8:19:47 AM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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Sorry for the double post...stupid fingers....
422 posted on 08/19/2003 8:31:30 AM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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423 posted on 08/19/2003 10:13:33 AM PDT by GigaDittos (I can hear the distant whine about wine in France.)
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What was that? Did someone say something? Guess it was just the wind blowing.
424 posted on 08/19/2003 10:15:37 AM PDT by GigaDittos (I can hear the distant whine about wine in France.)
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Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger.

How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

425 posted on 08/19/2003 7:43:20 PM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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Guess it was just the wind blowing.

The EPA should investigate you for contributing to global warming: you're full of hot air. I guess you'd address the substance if you were capable of reasoned and informed debate. Have a nice day, troll.

426 posted on 08/20/2003 9:51:42 AM PDT by the infidel
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Guess it was just the wind blowing.

The EPA should investigate you for contributing to global warming: you're full of hot air. I guess you'd address the substance if you were capable of reasoned and informed debate. Have a nice day, troll.

427 posted on 08/20/2003 9:53:08 AM PDT by the infidel
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