Posted on 01/07/2024 1:46:34 AM PST by spirited irish
How U.S. religious composition has changed in recent decades
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/how-u-s-religious-composition-has-changed-in-recent-decades/
I know someone will say "but it wasn't just the Catholic Church". Yes, I know that, but pointing the finger at other organizations instead of dealing with why it happened and why it was covered up will not fix anything.
We got there because, despite the Gospels being the solution, sinners started worrying more about other people’s sins than preaching the Gospels....blame the holier-than-thou types for spending more time pointing fingers than in teaching about Christ.
churchgoers are hypocritical in their practice
A child depends on the parents for religious formation. A child needs parents. Parents should be married.
Marriage isn’t considered an irreversible bond in our culture anymore. The Commandments are no longer binding. Going to hell for sex outside of marriage is a figment of the imagination. God will forgive you; actually God is a woman…
The progressive era and the advent of socialism brought on by the Depression got that started. Marriage became disposable…it is reversible, it can be undone. It’s caustic to women, and quoth Marx and Engels, “(t)he bourgeois sees his wife as a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women.”
Don’t worry son or daughter….you don’t need to do much discernment because you can always lawyer up like mom and dad did. Oh, and friends and family will happily applaud like a circus seal if you dump your spouse. There are Facebook groups and all kinds of social outlets geared toward starting life anew. Indeed, half of your friends and family are also in a state of mortal sin-it’s not like they’ll tell you to save your soul and work out the problem.
Then we have “research” showing that the kids turn out ok because they don’t see Mom and Dad fighting, that single parenthood can be good for the kids self-esteem, and other nonsense.
Sure…and the shots are safe and effective. Marx and Engels are smiling in hell.
I get that some spouses are tough, and there is mental illness and substance abuse. Guess what? That all existed prior to 1934. Divorce was shameful. It was a one-way ticket to hell. People worked out their problems. The same mindset that says “I’m against divorce except for cases of ____” is the same demonic mindset that says “I’m against abortion except in cases of _____.”
Where did the kids learn of this hypocrisy? Mom and Dad. Thou Shalt Not isn’t negotiable.
Many of the same people who are fretting about the irreversible damage cause by letting a 5-year old boy medically transition to a girl, are divorced. They can’t get the beam out of their eye.
Divorce is THE most destructive element to the family and society….more than the gays, more than Ukraine, more than Soros. It is clear, yet few rail against divorce anymore. .
Many folks around here are sure riled up by abortion, 5 year olds getting reassignment surgery, and so on. Fair enough. However, almost every time I turn the mirror and point to divorce as THE primary driver of societal collapse and amorality, I get crickets.
We need to get people into a pre-1934 marriage mindset. From there, children can grow up in a home that isn’t lead by hypocrites, where religion is seen as VITAL as opposed to a buffet where they can pick and choose morality.
Well-said; see above.
Blame the parents and their parents and their parents.
Society is rotten to the core. No politician, no rule, no law, no war, will ever make it bear fruit again.
Society will continue to fall to waste until such time it ceases to exist, and then it rebuilds itself from the desire to do so.
Unfortunately, most of gen z are totally illiterate. Can’t get past the propaganda they are fed on their little screens.
As a child of divorce I agree it’s the most destructive.
I really don’t disagree with what you are saying.
But, there are-were two different kinds of dispensationalists in America:
(1) the politically active Pat Robertson-Jerry Falwell- James Dobson wing,
and the
(2) John MacArthur - Chafer wing. Bear in mind the MacArthur - Chafer wing are not internally on the same page as far as Lordship Salvation, but also neither thought political action should be the main focus.
They both agreed the focus is the gospel of Jesus Christ, for people to be saved from eternal hell by receiving through faith God’s free gift of Jesus’s payment for our sin.
I appreciate your agreement, FRiend. I hope you’ve come out the other end whole.
Sadly, but not unexpectedly, all the other posters so willing to blame this and that while avoiding the core of the problem, have scattered.
THIS is how societies collapse.
>>The child sex scandals in the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts, among other Christian organizations, didn’t help.
While the Catholic Church may have had a specific problem, it is also a “mainstream” religion. It has the same problem that other mainstream religions have, the worst of which is that they provide a very poor benefits to cost ratio.
They spend a lot on real estate upkeep and on salaries and compensation expenses, while not delivering very much of value to the typical parishioner, especially the men.
It has been pointed out before that the countercultural revolution that took place in the sixties could have taken place in the twenties; the largesse was certainly there.
What prevented this was the collapse of the stock market and then the Great Depression; that and the war kept Americans saying their prayers for at least another generation.
By the time the baby-boomers grew up, enough time had passed since then and enough money was around that there was no sufficient hardship to keep them (as a generation, of course, and not to the last individual) from losing their minds.
Homosexuals took over the churches. Full stop. There’s your answer.
As a GenXer, my churches were led by effeminate “celibate” men who were obtuse about communicating scripture and why we had to be there other than for “the Eucharist.”
Exactly, it’s just human nature in my opinion. It’s really not shocking that the fattest, most comfortable and passively entertained people to ever exist are lacking in the spiritual department. Our culture is a spiritual victim of unprecedented material success.
Freegards
Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look on the fields, that they are white for harvest. Already he who reaps is receiving wages and is gathering fruit for life eternal; so that he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. For in this case the saying is true, ‘One sows and another reaps.’ I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored and you have entered into their labor.”
John 4:35-38
Proverbs 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
That didn’t happen for several generations now. Instead, Disneyfied children trained to follow their wicked hearts were allowed to grow into wild brambles.
For the most part I have come out the other side. Even in my mid fifties there’s still a ton of resentment towards my mother. She’s held true to form though, she’s a terrible grandmother. My kids step grandmother is more like a grandmother to my kids.
But rather than negativity and rehashing past memories I wish you an awesome Sunday FRiend.
They are still religious just not in the sense that many understand. The are devout members of the Church of Climate Change and the Church of LGBTQ. The know and follow the dogma of both as closely as any radical Iman follows Islam.
People need a god to worship it just comes down to which god the choose.
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