Posted on 08/27/2023 6:35:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
So, I ask again. Who or What is the 4th beast? Use scripture and history. Where and when does the Little Horn arise?
——>There is that better?
Much better. Now, what’s the prophetic significance of it? (or do you need someone to “explain” it to you?)
You asked me if people EXPLAIN the bible to me. If I have a question, sure they do. Do I believe everything everyone tells me? Certainly not. That is where prayer, study, and discernment come in to play.
Before the main church service, my wife and I attend a bible study group. No one I know just sits at home, reads the bible, and hopes to know everything. We need PERSPECTIVE.
“it come UP from among the 10 horns”
got a better answer ..?
show me
I did show you. All the horns come out of the head of the 4th beast. The Little Horn comes UP among the 10, that is, AFTER the 10 are already there, AND LASTS UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD, AT CHRIST'S SECOND COMING.
Daniel 7:
19Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; 20And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. 21I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; 22Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
23Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. 26But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. 27And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Why won't/can't you tell me who the 4th beast is?
“who the 4th beast is?”
You know who the 4th beast is?
hmmmm .....
show me ...
——>show me ...
I did. You refused to look/listen.
God’s Prophetic Chain: Lecture 1: God’s Great Prophetic Chain
https://youtu.be/V_baPM-EQFA
God’s Prophetic Chain: Lecture 2: Who is the Little Horn?
https://youtu.be/D2ZugKdNrps
God’s Prophetic Chain: Lecture 3: The sword and the captivity
https://youtu.be/0ktP5cbaBpA
Biblical texts and full explanations. All there. Seek and ye shall find.
The Restrainer of the Antichrist video. Bible texts and full explanation.
The Beasts/Kingdoms:
1: Babylon
2: Medo/Persia
3: Greece
4: Rome
And the fourth kingdom
I agree
We can correlate with historical events .. and postulate that
these kingdoms are fulfilled.
However there is no consensus as to who the feet and toes are...
Or babylon ..... So now we get into the realm of opinions and theories ... fun to debate and study ... but not central to salvation. I see .. Ephesians 1
after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed
——>... but not central to salvation.
It is if you get deceived by Satan and end up receiving the MOTB. It will happen to billions of people.
“I did. You refused to look/listen.”
Let me say once again ....
I am not interested in swapping comentarys, opinions and youtube videos .... that is a waste of time.
If it’s in the Book .. I believe it.
If you want to show me ... show me ..from the Book.
I think I have shown you a few clear doctrinal statements that you chose to ramble past in an effort to pursue a dogmatic point.
....
The thrust of the whole conversation ...
you seem to think that the day on which you worship has some connection with your salvation.
I don,t see it ... you haven’t shown it to me.
I on the other hand ...say salvation is a free gift based simply on your willingness to believe the gospel and accept it by faith.
Might I suggest you review our entire exchange .....
the Truth ........ it’s out there (x-file theme music in back ground)
“receiving the MOTB”
Right back where we started.
I’ve enjoyed it.
But you may as well just re-read the thread .. no point in going around again.
The 4th Beast: Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Revelation 12
Daniel 2: Legs of iron, feet of iron, mixed with clay.
Daniel 7: 19Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Revelation 12: Dragon: (lasts until the end of the world according to Daniel 7)
1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Revelation 12 proves that the 4th beast can be none other than the Roman Empire.
——>I am not interested in swapping comentarys, opinions and youtube videos .... that is a waste of time.
A waste of time would be for me to painstakingly outline my points from scripture, when it has already been done, IN VIDEO FORMAT. Total waste of time for me.
——>If you want to show me ... show me ..from the Book.
That’s EXACTLY what the presenter does. Absolutely no difference if I copy and past FROM THE BOOK, or if the scripture is presented verbatim IN THE VIDEO. Saves me a bunch of time explaining to you what it means, when he does it for me. Win, win.
——>I on the other hand ...say salvation is a free gift based simply on your willingness to believe the gospel and accept it by faith.
That argument works, only up until you claim grace. Then God expects you to obey him and live your live accordingly. That’s what you are judged on.
I wish you the best of luck.
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