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[Catholic Caucus] Abp. Viganò: Trump’s LGBT gala shows Deep State has ‘contaminated the entire political elite’
LifeSiteNews ^
| December 20, 2022
| Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
Posted on 12/22/2022 9:20:49 AM PST by fidelis
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posted on
12/22/2022 9:20:49 AM PST
by
fidelis
To: fidelis; Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; miele man; ...
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posted on
12/22/2022 9:33:56 AM PST
by
ebb tide
To: fidelis
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posted on
12/22/2022 9:41:35 AM PST
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: fidelis
When Trump began his 2016 nomination acceptance speech with a shout out to the LGBTQers, that was the proof, if any were needed, that the Romans 1 ship had sailed, and there can be no more a political solution to the defense of Godly marriage, as opposed to the Newspeak-named “Defense of Marriage Act.” The only solution now is national repentance, and the only way the demon of marriage destruction will come out is by national prayer and fasting.
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posted on
12/22/2022 9:56:28 AM PST
by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: fidelis
He should focus on what his Pope is doing. Trump is no stranger to welcoming gay voters into the Republican big tent. He did so at his 2016 nomination acceptance and featured LGBT for Trump gear along with many other items in his campaign store. This was an annual Log Cabin Republican even held at Mar-a-lago. Kari Lake and others were there as well. Gays can be conservatives too and, let’s not pretend gay marriage hasn’t been legal for about seven years thanks to a Republican SCOTUS well before Joe signed his symbolism over substance bill.
Politics and choosing candidates is complicated. No one can afford to be all or nothing. Advocate for your values and pray for peace and guidance in everyday life.
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posted on
12/22/2022 9:57:09 AM PST
by
newzjunkey
(How does GA end up with 2 Dem senators & 100% GOP statewide officials??? UGH)
To: fidelis
45 could lose some of his base if he proceeds to Kow-Tow to the LBGTQ group.
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posted on
12/22/2022 10:04:05 AM PST
by
Rappini
(In hoc signo vinces)
To: fidelis
Blaming every cultural shift on the ‘deep state’ makes the term meaningless.
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posted on
12/22/2022 10:10:58 AM PST
by
semimojo
To: newzjunkey
He should focus on what his Pope is doing. He has done that too.
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posted on
12/22/2022 10:22:27 AM PST
by
fidelis
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To: semimojo
Blaming every cultural shift on the ‘deep state’ makes the term meaningless. Archbishop Vigano does not mention the "Deep State" in his letter. It is in the title added by Lifesite News.
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posted on
12/22/2022 10:25:12 AM PST
by
fidelis
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To: Rappini
I will not be supporting him in the primaries over this.
If he ends up being our nominee I will still vote for him over Biden.
Regardless I have lost respect.
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posted on
12/22/2022 2:09:49 PM PST
by
Persevero
(You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
To: fidelis
He is correct. This nation is on a trajectory for Sodom and Gomorrah, ancient Greece, ancient Rome...we are rotten inside.
The only hope is a spiritual awakening.
To: Recovering_Democrat
He is correct. This nation is on a trajectory for Sodom and Gomorrah, ancient Greece, ancient Rome...we are rotten inside. The only hope is a spiritual awakening. That is exactly right. But we can't depend on the political or religious leaders we have today to take us there because they are almost all fearful, compromised, and weak. We need to pray and fast that God will turn the hearts of his people around and have a holy resurgence from the bottom up. The time is past for pew sitters and the milquetoast and moribund Church of nice.
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posted on
12/22/2022 3:55:24 PM PST
by
fidelis
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To: fidelis
Trump was a member of the NYCity elite and had a lot of gay friends. He is not a Biblical Christian, but is fighting for pro life causes maybe to get Christian support, but at least he keeps his word and did change the Supreme court to turn over the bad abortion decision of Roe.
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posted on
12/22/2022 5:17:08 PM PST
by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: LadyDoc
Trump was a member of the NYCity elite and had a lot of gay friends. He is not a Biblical Christian, but is fighting for pro life causes maybe to get Christian support, but at least he keeps his word and did change the Supreme court to turn over the bad abortion decision of Roe. I think we owe a debt of gratitude to Trump for his abortion victories and other promises he kept. However I find this increasingly open embracing of the LGBQT agenda by so-called Republican leaders across the board disturbing.
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posted on
12/22/2022 5:28:45 PM PST
by
fidelis
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To: fidelis
Archbishop Vigano does not mention the "Deep State" in his letter. It is in the title added by Lifesite News.Lifesite is representing as his statement.
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posted on
12/22/2022 6:25:11 PM PST
by
semimojo
To: semimojo
As I said, it only appears in the title they made up for the article and not in the body of his letter. Even in the title the words “Deep State” are not in quotation marks. Only the words ‘contaminated the entire political elite’ are in quotes in the title and in his letter.
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posted on
12/22/2022 6:44:27 PM PST
by
fidelis
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To: Persevero
Agree. Only when he becomes the nominee, if he does, will Christians have to vote for Trump over Biden.
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posted on
12/22/2022 6:54:06 PM PST
by
Savonarola
(Savonarola)
To: fidelis
Read it again.
”Up until now, certain aspects of the political platform of the Republican Party were able to be overlooked to some extent due to the much more serious threat embodied by the Democratic Party. But it is now evident that the action of the deep state has contaminated the entire political elite without distinction, even involving Donald Trump, who up until now seemed to be a source of hope for the future of the United States.”
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posted on
12/22/2022 7:01:30 PM PST
by
semimojo
To: semimojo
I must need new glasses. You are correct. Thanks!
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posted on
12/22/2022 8:38:33 PM PST
by
fidelis
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To: fidelis
A nation that offends the Law of God cannot hope to be blessed by the Lord, and those who support sinful lifestyles ought to think of the Judgment that awaits them rather than pleasing those who are corrupt in a calculated effort to win votes. This could be the issue that destroys Trump, and our nation.
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