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Pope tells theologians to consult ‘non-Catholics,’ avoid ‘going backward’ in Tradition
LifeSite News ^ | November 25, 2022 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 11/26/2022 12:02:43 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

warned ... against “going backward” in “Tradition,”

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I agree, on the surface. Paul wrote about the trouble with, and the uselessness of ‘tradition’. (Jewish tradition of the time)

But I suspect this Poop, oops Pope, would consider Salvation By Grace, without works, as ‘tradition’.

And his - promote the Gospel by consulting non-Catholic “experts.”

Probably refers to non-Catholic, social justice and welfare-type organizations.


21 posted on 11/26/2022 2:31:01 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: ebb tide

My suggestion to Frank is that he read the New Testament as it is, without seeing it through the filter of centuries of additions and traditions that have been made to the simple practices of the early Church.


22 posted on 11/26/2022 2:31:06 PM PST by Moonmad27
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To: ebb tide

Pop Marx speaks


23 posted on 11/26/2022 2:32:57 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: ebb tide

This apostate needs bounced!!


24 posted on 11/26/2022 3:37:09 PM PST by bantam
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To: GingisK
I’m Lutheran, by the way.

I figured so. Luck with that.

25 posted on 11/26/2022 4:08:45 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Mary was a sinner too.

How so? Who made you a reader of souls?

26 posted on 11/26/2022 4:12:18 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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—> How so? Who made you a reader of souls?

No need to read souls.

Only need to read Scripture.

“None is righteous, no, not one;”


27 posted on 11/26/2022 4:18:34 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: GingisK; aMorePerfectUnion
Mary was no big deal. I’m Lutheran, by the way.

Well then, you're not a true "Lutheran", according to Luther, himself:

Martin Luther's Devotion to Mary

28 posted on 11/26/2022 4:22:50 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Isaiah 7:14:
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
29 posted on 11/26/2022 4:26:16 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Virgins are sinners too bro


30 posted on 11/26/2022 4:28:03 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Virgins are sinners too bro

Yet, judgemental you can't name one of Her "sins".

But thanks for finally admitting that Mary was a perpetual virgin.

31 posted on 11/26/2022 4:33:14 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Luther lacked perfection.


32 posted on 11/26/2022 4:46:24 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Luther lacked perfection.

He also lacked sanctity. He wrestled with the Devil and he lost.

33 posted on 11/26/2022 4:50:31 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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You are, like most deep-end Catholics, mistaken. Indulgences my ass. Etc, etc, etc. Never any of it Scriptural.


34 posted on 11/26/2022 5:09:03 PM PST by GingisK
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

And you know that how, exactly? Luther’s name does not appear in the Bible, so you’re obviously relying on some extra-Scriptural authority ... one I don’t recognize.


35 posted on 11/26/2022 5:21:37 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: GingisK

Why did Jesus Christ fast 40 days in the desert?

Was He not sinless?


36 posted on 11/26/2022 5:22:43 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Mary was a virgin until after the birth of Christ when she enjoyed marital relations with her husband Joseph, to fulfill the Scriptural order of creation.

As far as Mary’s sins, God said all have sinned and there are none righteous - not one.

I don’t need to know any details about Mary’s sins. God knows all and all son is against Him.


37 posted on 11/26/2022 5:23:19 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Campion

ALL believers are saints, sealed, and seated in the heavenlies. Just read the epistles.


39 posted on 11/26/2022 5:24:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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And you know that Luther died saved and a "believer" how, exactly? You weren't there and couldn't have seen into his heart if you had been. Don't even bother with OSAS; Luther didn't believe it anyway.

Where do you get off infallibly proclaiming that Luther is among the saved, when Scripture never identifies him as such?

40 posted on 11/26/2022 5:33:25 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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