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Trudeau Says Anger ‘Fully Understandable Given the Shameful History’ as Churches Burn Down
Breitbart ^ | 7/4/2021 | Jack Montgomery

Posted on 07/04/2021 7:23:20 AM PDT by EBH

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To: CrimsonTidegirl

And their “Christian pastors” will instruct conservatives that Romans 13 requires their obedience.


41 posted on 07/04/2021 11:40:05 AM PDT by Skepolitic ( )
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To: EBH

It is logical that in the last days, people will become extremely judgmental, and thereby bring upon themselves judgment.


42 posted on 07/04/2021 12:07:50 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are these churches being burned and vandalized as a result of recent reports of religions abusing children from 100 years ago? Or is this a natural reaction of a nation that has deliberately targeted Christianity as evil and wrong . .

Good question. There is an undercurrent in the U.S. that hates the church, and waits for an excuse to attack. There are been 39 church arsons in the U.S. in 2021.

43 posted on 07/04/2021 12:10:51 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: CatHerd; butlerweave

I guess my point is ...as Hillary would say,

“what difference does it make now?”

The people who did this and the people who were victims have long since passed away. For modern people to take out revenge on now innocent modern people who had nothing to do with the sins of the past is illogical.

In the face of all the progress made, the abuses ceased, etc. What is modern society’s justification to revisit that which was done 100+ years ago to seek punishment or revenge? To study the event, understand what went wrong, and what was done to correct it and how that influences us today...fine. But the revenge, rage and anger do nothing to even remotely meet those points.


44 posted on 07/04/2021 12:57:00 PM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH; butlerweave

Butlerweave asked how many indigenous children died outside the schools. A lot of people are asking that question, as in did they die at a higher rate than children not in the schools. I tried to find an answer to that myself days ago when I first read about this. There is no clear answer, so I simply shared some information points toward a best guess.

I completely agree with you that anger, revenge and destruction does no one any good and think you have written some excellent posts here.

There are people still alive who were taken from their homes and forced to attend these residential schools. Attendance continued to be mandatory through the 1970s, although more schools were converted to day schools in the last decade of operation. Some schools continued to operate into the 1990s.

That said, First Nations leaders think the fires were set by young people who never set foot in one of the schools:

“Many residential school survivors hate the Church with a passion — but I have never heard any of them ever suggest people turn to this.

“There is a proper way of displaying anger. I mean, I’m angry about it. I talk to a lot of residential school survivors and sure there is a lot of hatred and bitterness and anger — but that still doesn’t mean you go and do arson.

“We think it is the same group of punks that burnt all of them down,” he said of the Okanagan fires. “And the young people that burned down these churches never went to residential schools.”

Link: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/temperature-rising-first-nations-leaders-condemn-rash-of-church-fires-across-canada

And from one of their Chiefs:

“It’s misplaced ignorance, stupidity, an alright criminal act by young people,” he presumed.

Link: https://globalnews.ca/news/7985146/bc-interior-indigenous-leader-church-fires/


45 posted on 07/04/2021 2:20:50 PM PDT by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Justin Trudeau has tried to deflect all blame onto the Catholic Church, demanding the Pope apologize, etc. And no wonder. His father was Prime minister for a decade when these schools continued to be compulsory. Nevermind that Pope Benedict already made a most moving and heartfelt apology First Nations leaders said satisfied them.

Fontaine, a residential school survivor, later stated that he had sensed the Pope’s “pain and anguish” and that the acknowledgement was “important to [him] and that was what [he] was looking for”.[102] In an interview with CBC News, Fontaine stated in regards to the Pope’s acknowledgement of the suffering of the school survivors “I think in that sense, there was that apology that we were certainly looking for.”[103][101] In an interview Fontaine stated “Our struggle has reached a decisive moment. While the past must never be forgotten, our destiny lies in building a future with enduring foundations, the cornerstone of which is forgiveness.”[99]

John stated that “I also heard His Holiness say that the abuse of the nature that was inflicted on us has no place in the Church, it’s intolerable and it caused him great anguish.” John further stated that he hopes the apology will help “many people move forward.”

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system#Roman_Catholic_Church

Too bad the kids burning down churches did not take his words to heart.

I don’t think they should be burning anything down, including government buildings. You are quite right that their anger should be addressed at the government, though. The government was in charge of the schools and made the policy. They did topple statues of Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth II and Captain Cook. Because colonialism I guess.


46 posted on 07/04/2021 2:41:45 PM PDT by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: EBH

Neo-Taliban.


47 posted on 07/04/2021 4:16:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Skepolitic

Sadly, you are correct.


48 posted on 07/04/2021 7:42:32 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Christopher Sign did not kill himself.)
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