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The 'great Christian apologist' Ravi Zacharias and his catastrophic betrayal
Christian Post ^ | 12/30/2020 | Carson Weitnauer

Posted on 12/30/2020 7:19:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

“Ravi had committed criminal sexual abuse”

If Ravi had committed criminal sexual abuse, why was it never brought to trial?

This was a godly man who is now being defamed, and since he is deceased, cannot defend himself. Therefore, we can say anything we want to with no recourse.


21 posted on 12/30/2020 8:28:40 AM PST by Jessarah
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Fake News indeed.

What a bunch of crap....published by Christian Post. Trash. Simply trash.


22 posted on 12/30/2020 8:28:53 AM PST by griffin
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To: griffin
This attention seeking weasel presents no evidence. All alluded to.

So, what, only links to the victims' and witnesses' depositions count as evidence?

23 posted on 12/30/2020 8:29:36 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SeekAndFind

The dude owned a massage parlor.


24 posted on 12/30/2020 8:32:51 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus (JESUS IS LORD. )
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To: SeekAndFind
Ravi Zacharias was not the greatest apologist of his generation – but rather one of its greatest frauds

Unfounded conclusion. While his sins may render some less receptive to his apologetics, they are irrelevant to the substance of what he taught and the rhetorical effectiveness of how he taught it.

25 posted on 12/30/2020 8:35:11 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mr Rogers

Phillipians 1: 15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.

16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.

17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.

18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice


26 posted on 12/30/2020 8:35:29 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Practically all of the great heroes of the Bible stories had some serious flaws too. King David had his loyal military officer killed in his scheme to cover up the adulterous affair with his impregnated Bathsheba. Now if RZ did his accusers accusations it too is sin but God is merciful if we repent just like King David did for his atrocity.


27 posted on 12/30/2020 8:36:18 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: NobleFree
You'll need to work with your Creepy Porn Lawyer to help establish all these depositions as actual facts and evidence.

Creepy Porn Lawyer might be able to make these charges stick.

SHEESH! REALIZE THE TIMES YOU ARE IN NobelFree. Your society is being ripped down all around you by your enemies that will stop at nothing to undermine pillars of our society and destroy YOU! Don't be the enemies ally.

Ravi was one such pillar. Ravi was a ROCK SOLID APOLOGETIC PREACHER - up there with Billy Graham. A truly great man who is in my Savior’s arms now.

28 posted on 12/30/2020 8:37:07 AM PST by griffin
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To: SeekAndFind
Carson Weitnauer -

A weasel that is trying to build his fame on the ashes of a dead Christian giant. Trying to sell his book on Amazon. Trying to gain name recognition. Trying to pedal his wares on the hard work and destruction of a great Christian Philosopher.

Pays no mind to the destruction he heaps onto Christianity by writing these hit pieces as the country totters on Civil War and uncertainty.

PATHETIC.

Equally PATHETIC are those that encourage him and his ‘message’.

29 posted on 12/30/2020 8:47:50 AM PST by griffin
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To: Mr Rogers; PGR88
"A line of logic can be true even in the person making it is a jerk. And we only have this person’s word that this Ravi guy - never heard of him myself - WAS a bad person."

Imagine a small town with one intersection governed by a stop light and monitored by a corrupt cop. If you are among the town's elite, and/or a buddy of the cop, you can run the red light with impunity. If you're on the cop's list, or from out of town, you're getting pulled over and getting a ticket even if you came to a complete stop at the red light.

The fact that imperfect, corrupt or simply evil people are involved does not invalidate the broader, overarching wisdom of regulating traffic at intersections.

Hypocrites who say one thing and do another should rightly be called out, but I think we all need to invest a little effort to overcome our natural inclination to focus on the hypocrite's shortcomings and failures rather than what may be the wisdom or rectitude of their words which they failed to uphold.

30 posted on 12/30/2020 8:48:18 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: griffin
enemies that will stop at nothing to undermine pillars of our society

It could be a deliberate frame-up - but IMO the simplest and thus likeliest explanation is that Ravi was a sinner (as are we all).

Ravi was a ROCK SOLID APOLOGETIC PREACHER

Which to me makes it far from impossible that he's guitly as charged.

31 posted on 12/30/2020 8:52:40 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: griffin
trying to build his fame on the ashes of a dead Christian giant. Trying to sell his book on Amazon.

How would trashing a noted anti-atheist apologist help him sell anti-atheist books?

32 posted on 12/30/2020 8:56:19 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: PGR88

Agreed.

“The realization that Ravi Zacharias was not the greatest apologist of his generation – but rather one of its greatest frauds – has felt like a catastrophic betrayal.”

This conclusory statement is ignorant or misleading or both. MLK,Jr. was, by many accounts, a notorious womanizer, yet his writings are scripturally based and powerfully convincing. Zacharias apparently falls into the same camp.


33 posted on 12/30/2020 9:13:50 AM PST by jagusafr ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Color me skeptical of Carson Weitnauer who chose to quote LOTR instead of Scripture. “Rhodes College and Oxford?” OK, I see the pattern here.

I don’t support RZIM because Ravi Zacharias was or was not a saint. I couldn’t care less. I look at the teaching and the challenge to consider a Christian worldview.

If I were limited to supporting ministries of perfect people only, I’d send nary a dime to anybody. That could be Weitnauer’s goal. It’s certainly the equilibrium effect of a world of Weitnauers.

Sounds a lot like Satan’s goal, too. Just sayin’


34 posted on 12/30/2020 9:30:08 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This writer really wouldn’t have liked King David, the adulterer. He really, really wouldn’t have liked Moses, the murderer and law breaker.


35 posted on 12/30/2020 9:56:58 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The oriental cultures are different than ours. Massage parlors are more common


36 posted on 12/30/2020 10:01:15 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: NobleFree

The evidence seems to be people saying things about him, after he is dead, concerning what happened between them years ago. I’ve always been very uncomfortable with that sort of evidence. I’m not entirely comfortable with Bill Cosby’s conviction, but at least he is alive and was given a public trial where other sides could be presented.

This Ravi guy is being convicted without public testimony and without any possibility of defense. If someone won’t make the accusation when the other person is alive, they ought to shut up afterward. I believe in the right to face your accuser. And I abhor anonymous accusations.


37 posted on 12/30/2020 10:28:03 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: SeekAndFind

Beware false prophets.


38 posted on 12/30/2020 10:35:50 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: jmacusa

RE: Beware false prophets.

Judging from his PUBLIC TEACHING and MINISTRY, Ravi isn’t one of them.


39 posted on 12/30/2020 10:51:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mr Rogers

All valid considerations. My only point was that saying there’s “no evidence” is not accurate.


40 posted on 12/30/2020 11:09:35 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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