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Why this evangelical couple became Eastern Orthodox (part 1) - from Southern Baptist to Orthodox
Christian Post ^ | 24 October 2020 | Brandon Showalter

Posted on 10/26/2020 6:10:50 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: JesusIsLord
She is his mother and due the unique honor in the church and heaven.

Matthew 11:11

Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.


Why does no one give Jesus' grandmother any recognition?

After all...


(I'll leave the dot connecting to the reader...)

101 posted on 10/27/2020 5:42:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Are you judging people without knowing anything about them?

Are you scolding someone for 'judging'??
What standard are you comparing them to?


Judge NOT???
 
Sigh...
 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

"Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


"But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us" (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

"And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

"Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself" (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple" (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep's skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."  (John 7:24).

102 posted on 10/27/2020 5:46:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Are you judging people without knowing anything about them?

Proverbs 20:11 KJV
Even a child makes himself known by his doings, whether his work is pure, and whether it is right.

Are you scolding someone for 'judging'??
To what standard are you comparing them?


Judge NOT???
 
Sigh...
 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

"Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


"But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us" (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

"And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

"Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself" (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple" (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep's skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."  (John 7:24).

103 posted on 10/27/2020 5:49:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
The article doesn't state more about why they felt this way, so its probably not enough to speculate beyond that they had a different experience from you

Yup; the bible kinda warns of stuff like that.


NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.
 
Too bad the Catholics (and Mormons) have managed to "go beyond" what IS written.

104 posted on 10/27/2020 5:55:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

AMEN!

Preach it, Brother!!


105 posted on 10/27/2020 5:57:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

or even hinted at!!!


106 posted on 10/27/2020 5:58:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr Rogers
The article is like having Joe Biden tell me about what Catholics truly believe......

Ouch!
Now THAT stings!!

107 posted on 10/27/2020 6:00:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
You need to stop reading scripture as excerpts ...

Uh; I hope this will be your practice; in the future.

108 posted on 10/27/2020 6:01:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos

Thank GOD! that Rome invented the catechism to make sure all it’s followers were TAUGHT correctly so that they then BELIEVED correctly!


109 posted on 10/27/2020 6:04:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I’m glad you asked this question...


110 posted on 10/27/2020 6:05:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: American in Israel
Baptists, all law, no love.

Oh oh!

I've come to this movie when it's about half over; but I've did get a BIG tub of popcorn at the concession stand before finding a seat.

111 posted on 10/27/2020 6:08:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
In short, Mary needed a savior, like all created things, but she received her salvation through the merits of her Son, before time.

Didn't you just suggest that we not use snippets of Scripture but put it in context?

What you used here ain't even SCRIPTURE!!

112 posted on 10/27/2020 6:10:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Of course God could have chosen another way, but the Mary way was where God gave Mary the free will to chose

Ok; just WHAT did she CHOOSE?

113 posted on 10/27/2020 6:12:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
The spiritual truth is spiritually discerned and from your posting, it doesn’t sound like you are saved because you reject Christ’s teachings in favor of verses out of context and relying on you being quick to judge based on no spiritual discernment

This seems a bit; shall we say; judgmental.

114 posted on 10/27/2020 6:13:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Yeller

I think LIE fits better than MYTH.


115 posted on 10/27/2020 6:15:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Campion
..., which means that nobody is saved except through Mary.

Then; logically; no one is saved except thru Rahab as well.

116 posted on 10/27/2020 6:17:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld

We were doing fine; arguing among ourselves...


117 posted on 10/27/2020 6:19:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

It was showing him the erroneous way he made his judgement call on the education of the people in the article, based on very little data


118 posted on 10/27/2020 6:21:12 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Luircin
Therefore according to your logic, she’s a sinner via original sin.

BINGO!

And; there is that ..."ALL have sinned" thingy; too.

119 posted on 10/27/2020 6:22:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Read the article. or better yet, Luke 1
38 Mary said, “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word.” Then the angel departed from her.

120 posted on 10/27/2020 6:23:30 AM PDT by Cronos
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