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Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
https://www.complicitclergy.com ^ | December 26, 2919

Posted on 12/26/2019 10:02:35 AM PST by NKP_Vet

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41 posted on 12/26/2019 1:16:06 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
Protestantism ia as much the wrong answer as Frankieism.

Are you Protesting your pope???

42 posted on 12/26/2019 3:00:18 PM PST by Iscool
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To: steve86; Capt. Tom
That's a good point. Pope Francis has never spoken ex cathedra,--- and to that extent, he has never formally claimed to make an infallible statement ---- and I predict with confidence that he never will.

He doesn't have to.

His methods are insinuation, suggestion, ambiguity, equivocation, gaslighting, head-fakes, ecclesiastical bafflgab, and huge numbers of extremely corrupt appointments. (Kinda like Trump remaking the courts, only bad.)

You don't have to change anything de jure if you can change everything de facto.

Like what happened in the aftermath of V2. It wasn't in the documents, no matter what any of them said. It was in the Zeitgeist. And the total failure of anybody who knew better, to stop them.

43 posted on 12/26/2019 4:48:01 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Ambiguity is the mark of the demonic." + Josef Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) The Ratzinger Report, 1985)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
That's a good point. Pope Francis has never spoken ex cathedra,--- and to that extent, he has never formally claimed to make an infallible statement ---- and I predict with confidence that he never will.
He doesn't have to.

What I am watching is how Pope Francis handles the death penalty

. The Pope opposes it on flowery heart tugging rhetoric but if he makes an ex-cathedra statement opposing the death penalty in all cases, it will really cause a lot of Catholics to reassess their Church membership. - Tom

44 posted on 12/26/2019 5:40:04 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom
Yes, that is a big biggie. He is inserting his language into the Catechism, with--- they tell me --a footnote citing himself. Talk about chutpah.

"L'Magisterium, c'est moi."

The other big biggie is the Buenos Aires/Amorphous Laetitia stuff he had Parolin shoehorn into the AAS. Parolin says this is "authentic Papal Magisterium," without dealing with an obvious fatal flaw: the Buenos Aires BS is just as ambiguous as the original Amorphous BS. You can't make cathedrals out of jello and you can't make Magisterium out of a nudge, a wink and a footnote.

45 posted on 12/26/2019 6:25:08 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by diabolical disorientation. -Mrs Dono)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Some of the results of vat 2 are here

On This “Little Christmas”
January 6th from my The First Book Of Moses poetry page

On This “Little Christmas”
January 6th

Once Upon a Time and not too long ago
The Twelfth Night Of Christmas
was celebrated with a ball
From the Day of Babes Birth
and the 11 thereafter
kith and kin were paid a visit
and friends from far and near
once were paid a call
So on this day I pray in the spirit that this date recalls
Let the gift of homage of kings gain
in the spirit of the days this season yet remain
ere it wane
Be thine Blessings Great
and misfortunes thee none befall

This poem is an abbreviated version from my websites poetry page which shows how the Christmas season was observed by Catholics in Chicago’s Bridgeport neighborhood during depression times and WWII.The page also lists the differences from traditional Roman Catholic Christmas observance and the present after Vatican 2.Which eliminated a period of mortification during the advent period of fast and abstinence or reducing enphasis on observing feast days such as Immaculate Conception December 8th and the 12th day of Christmas known as the Epiphany January 6th.Resulting in listing Epiphany no longer on most calendars because of the decision to observe Epiphany to a Sunday following Christmas the 25th.
http://www.theusmat.com/natdesk.htm


46 posted on 12/26/2019 7:14:05 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: mosesdapoet

Thanks for this.The Liturgical Calendar thoiughts are very interesting and will get a second reading. Was talking to my new pastor about this yesterday, a young semi-traddy who is receptive to the way it was done in my mother’s day, 100 years ago.

Be thine Blessings Great and misfortunes
thee none befall.


47 posted on 12/27/2019 4:49:25 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, and patient. 2 Tim 2:24)
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To: NKP_Vet
A terrible darkness has spread over the world and the Church. Modernism, Secularism, Humanism, and Scientism are eroding the ancient Truths of Faith; and aided by the poisonous ideology of Evolution, which is no science at all, have convinced many in the Church that Man is getting better all the time.

Oh. Well there you have it. They denied Catholic Dogma Number 1.

48 posted on 12/27/2019 7:08:37 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: NKP_Vet
For anyone wanting to read the entirety of their statement on Francis:

http://www.trumpeteer.co.uk/the-declaration/4594595263
49 posted on 12/27/2019 8:25:23 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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