Why Evangelicals Should Rethink Embrace of Contraception, Part One

The Stream ^ | Jul 2018 | Julie Roys

[Elsie]

How about masturbation?

[Elsie]

But isn’t that the sin of Oman?

No; the pulling out was not a sin; the REASON for pulling out was.

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 Onan's death was retribution for being "evil in the sight of the Lord" and disobeying a direct order from the Lord by being unwilling to father a child by his widowed sister-in-law.^[2]

 

^{Genesis 38:7-10}

 

⁷ And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.

⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.

⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan

[Elsie]

But at least it has roots.

Like those 7 Catholic churches that John wrote to in the first three chapters of Revelation?

[Captain Walker]

Read the rest of the chapter. Judah disobeyed God as well in not keeping up the family lineage (by not introducing his son Shelah to his daughter in law Tamar). But he was never put to death for his disobedience.

[lastchance]

I am assuming you are Protestant so I am providing some links that are from non-Catholic sources.

https://www.wisensda.org/blog/2018/3/12/the-trinity-and-marriage

http://theologyontheground.com/four-pictures-of-the-trinity-in-marriage/

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/marriage/the-divine-order-to-marriage/

https://files.lcms.org/wl/?id=3VrpDZa4f93s8uWMoEN6rJ7T2nE0ZQFr

The last is a rather long piece but I think touches on many important points about Christian life and marriage.

Now for the most part the articles are concerned with the marital relationship between husband and wife. So the question of artificial contraception is not discussed. But remember the Trinity is a life giving union. And marriage should reflect that just as it reflects the relationship of God in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Marriage tells us much more than just how a man and woman are supposed to come together. It reveals to us the nature of God Himself.

[Elsie]

What has one to do with the other?

[Sir_Ed]

Huh??

[Captain Walker]

What has one to do with the other?

You’re making the claim that Onan was put to death for his disobedience (in not impregnating Tamar). But Shelah was the third son of Judah who was to take this role. However, even though Judah had told Tamar he would bring Shelah to her when he grew older, he didn’t do this.

There were two men who failed in their duties with regard to Tamar.

My position is that Onan was killed for wasting his seed; Judah’s survival confirms my point. Your claim is that Onan’s disobedience led to his death; my question is, why didn’t Judah also end up dead?

[Elsie]

You’re making the claim that Onan was put to death for his disobedience (in not impregnating Tamar).

Strange; I don't remember making a 'claim'; but I thought I posted the scripture that addressed this.

[Elsie]

Your claim is that Onan’s disobedience led to his death; my question is, why didn’t Judah also end up dead?

You've a valid question; but you are asking the wrong person.

I quite often fail in my attempts to mindread GOD.

You need to ask Him directly.

[Captain Walker]

But I already know the answer to the question: It wasn’t the act of disobedience that led to Onan’s death; it was that he “spilled his seed”. (Judah lived precisely because his sin didn’t involve the same act as Onan’s.)

If you are going to maintain the position that Onan’s death was due to disobedience, then it is very much in your interest to get the answer to this question.

[Elsie]

It seems to me that the REAL question is:

Why ain’t ALL of us males DEAD??