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Why Allah is not The Lord God
Youtube ^ | 11/10/19 | Gerard Perry

Posted on 11/10/2019 5:48:12 PM PST by OddLane

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To: ealgeone
The point though is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is NOT the who Muslims seek.

There is only one Father, "The God" of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

  • The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
  • Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
  • Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
  • Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
  • But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
  • God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    ...

  • For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
  • God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
  • Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
  • And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
  • That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
  • For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
  • Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
  • And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
  • Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

    John, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verses nineteen to twenty four,
    Acts, Catholic chapter seventeen, Protestant verses twenty three to thirty one,
    as authorized, but not authored, by King James

41 posted on 11/13/2019 3:30:15 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
The point though is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is NOT the who Muslims seek.

There is only one Father, "The God" of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

NT Christians understand that.

However, this doesn't excuse what your denomination has written, dogmatically I might add, about this in regards to Islam.

It clearly states regarding Roman Catholics and Muslims "together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

As with so many things involving Roman Catholicism they have departed from the Scriptures.

I dare say if any of us said anything along those lines the Roman Catholic would pounce like a hyena on the error.

43 posted on 11/13/2019 3:38:18 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Cronos
The Sunni rely on the Quran and the Hadiths - and so sola scriptura on them, just like the sola scripturists who call themselves Christians

dude....do you just like to stir the pot with ignorance??

The Koran PLUS the Hadiths are not sola scriptura.

It's more akin to your denomination....scripture PLUS tradition.

You really do not know what you're talking about.

It's about time you run along and get ready for Christmas as you noted on another thread.

44 posted on 11/13/2019 3:41:53 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981

That is a lot of words for such little sense. In your linguistic analysis, are you making the case that Jehovah is exactly the same name as allah?

It seems like you are playing 7 degrees from Kevin Bacon.


45 posted on 11/13/2019 3:53:22 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple; af_vet_1981

It’s the linguistic hoops the Roman Catholic is forced to jump through to try and explain away the error they’ve made on this issue.


46 posted on 11/13/2019 4:21:55 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I am willing to bet there is a document in the Vatican archives that plainly states that Muhammad’s communication with Gabriel is a fallacy. It bet it states that Muhammad was either tricked by Satan, or Muhammad went along with the fraud Satan proposed willingly.

If the church concurred with the account, it would be a certified miracle. It isn’t.

Catholicism ain’t what it used to be.


47 posted on 11/13/2019 4:41:53 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: OddLane

One of the most remarkable things in the Bible is when Moses is in front of the burning bush and he asks what name he should use when he goes back to Egypt and the Israelites ask who sent him and the reply comes tell them I Am sent you. No name like all the other gods humanity had created simply the real God who exists sent him. Jesus echoes that when he states he existed before Abraham.


48 posted on 11/13/2019 4:58:52 AM PST by xp38
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To: Cronos; ealgeone; af_vet_1981
Let's look at official Roman doctrine about islam.

Pope kissing Koran.

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

You guys share the same beliefs as the Moslems!! Imagine that.

Get off your high horse and stop pot stirring.

You're just trolling, like with that other thread and Catholics are in no position to point fingers cause there are some other ways that Catholicism shares history with islam and I'll bet you'd rather not go there.

49 posted on 11/13/2019 2:01:59 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Triple
In your linguistic analysis, are you making the case that Jehovah is exactly the same name as allah?

No, one would have to be ignorant of both Hebrew and Arabic to make that case.

ٱلل‍َّٰه‎ (Allah) is the word for "The God" in Arabic.
אלה (Elah) is the word for "God" in Aramaic.
אל (El) is the word for "god/God" (singular) אלהים(Elohim) is "gods/God" (plural) in Hebrew.

The name of God is, as He says: אֲנִי יְהוָה (I am the LORD.)

The English version in the question is inaccurate (there is no 'J' in Hebrew and the correct pronunciation of The Name is shrouded in history).

ב וַיְדַבֵּר אֱלֹהִים, אֶל-מֹשֶׁה; וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו, אֲנִי יְהוָה. 2 And God spoke unto Moses, and said unto him: 'I am the LORD; ג וָאֵרָא, אֶל-אַבְרָהָם אֶל-יִצְחָק וְאֶל-יַעֲקֹב--בְּאֵל שַׁדָּי; וּשְׁמִי יְהוָה, לֹא נוֹדַעְתִּי לָהֶם. 3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name YHWH I made Me not known to them.
50 posted on 11/13/2019 4:39:43 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

Ok...


51 posted on 11/14/2019 9:05:35 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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