Why Allah is not The Lord God

Youtube ^ | 11/10/19 | Gerard Perry

[ronnie raygun]

Jesus did not kill his enemies, promote others to do so, rape children and mutilate and brutalize women.

[af_vet_1981]

Allah” is the Arabic word for “God” and has been so long before the existence of Islam.



The Navigators, a well-known evangelical Christian organization, published the following:

“…It’s interesting to observe that, in rejecting the Athenian’s erroneous concept of God, Paul did not reject the word they used for God, Theos, which was the common Greek word for God.

Some Christians unthinkingly say ‘Allah is not God.’ This is the ultimate blasphemy to Muslims, and furthermore, it is difficult to understand. Allah is the primary Arabic word for God. It means ‘The God.’ There are some minor exceptions. For example, the Bible in some Muslim lands uses a word for God other than Allah (Farsi and Urdu are examples). But for more than five hundred years before Muhammad, the vast majority of Jews and Christians in Arabia called God by the name Allah. How, then, can we say that Allah is an invalid name for God? If it is, to whom have these Jews and Christians been praying?

And what about the 10 to 12 million Arab Christians today? They have been calling God ‘Allah’ in their Bibles, hymns, poems, writings, and worship for over nineteen centuries. What an insult to them when we tell them not to use this word ‘Allah’! Instead of bridging the distance between Muslims and Christians, we widen the gulf of separation between them and us when we promote such a doctrine. Those who still insist that it is blasphemy to refer to God as Allah should also consider that Muhammad’s father was named Abd Allah, ‘God’s servant,’ many years before his son was born or Islam was founded!”

—excerpted from Building Bridges by Fouad Accad (Colorado Springs, CO: Navpress), p. 22.

Copyrighted © image. Reaching Muslims for Christ, book photo. Reaching Muslims for Christ The publishing arm of the Moody Bible Institute published this:

“Whenever it is postulated that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, there are some—both Christians and Muslims—who say this is simply untrue. Those who raise objections generally agree that Christians and Muslims worship one God, but will not accept the statement that they worship the same God. Admittedly, this problem is probably more of a Christian problem than it is a Muslim problem. Once a Muslim is ready to acknowledge that God can be known by a name other than Allah (i.e., God, Onyame, etc.), he will generally agree that Christians and Muslims worship ‘the same God.’ At the same time, he will insist, however, that Christians err in ‘associating’ (shirk) others with God. This conclusion grows out of the common misunderstanding among Muslims, based partially on the Quran (5:119), that Christians worship a Trinity of Father, Mother, and Son.

The problem as it confronts Christians is another kind of a problem altogether. It is a question of whether you can say you are worshipping the same God when you have such different understandings of the nature of God. Those who are troubled by this concern say that although Christians and Muslims use the same name for God and many of the same words to describe Him, they are not talking about the same God because Christians are talking about the Triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit…”

[af_vet_1981]

See Post 22

[mythenjoseph]

There are other languages than English ?..Ha , Who knew?....oh and just a reminder F k islam and any who foster and aid it in any way as it is nothing more than a political militaristic thoelogy which is satanically perverse .

[MHGinTN]

Citing the generic is one thing but conflating the generic and specific is quite another. Do you need help further?

[OddLane]

We’re doing a prophetic reading of Hebrews in our Bible Study right now. It’s an amazing book.

[vespa300]

Yes, truly an amazing book. Very deep. Thank u.

[ealgeone]

Yet Roman Catholicism seems to have a problem in properly understanding the differences between God and Allah.

From John Paul II.

We Christians joyfully recognize the religious values we have in common with Islam. Today I would like to repeat what I said to young Muslims some years ago in Casablanca: “We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection”.

https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_05051999.html

[MHGinTN]

I still cannot get that picture of John Paul !! kissing that demon spawn book, the Koran.

[af_vet_1981]

There is only one God, the same God, the living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jews, Christians and Moslems seek to worship the one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jews and Moslems reject the concepts of the Divinity of Messiah and the Holy Trinity.

2. We Christians joyfully recognize the religious values we have in common with Islam. Today I would like to repeat what I said to young Muslims some years ago in Casablanca: “We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection” (Insegnamenti, VIII/2, [1985], p. 497). The patrimony of revealed texts in the Bible speaks unanimously of the oneness of God. Jesus himself reaffirms it, making Israel's profession his own: “The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Mk 12:29; cf. Dt 6:4-5). This oneness is also affirmed in the words of praise that spring from the heart of the Apostle Paul: “To the king of ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen” (1 Tm 1:17).

We know that in the light of the full Revelation in Christ, this mysterious oneness cannot be reduced to a numerical unity. The Christian mystery leads us to contemplate in God's substantial unity the persons of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit: each possesses the divine substance whole and indivisible, but each is distinct from the other by virtue of their reciprocal relations.

3. Their relations in no way compromise the oneness of God, as the Fourth Lateran Council explains (1215): “Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature.... It does not generate, is not begotten and does not proceed” (DS 804). The Christian doctrine on the Trinity, confirmed by the Councils, explicitly rejects any form of “tritheism” or “polytheism”. In this sense, i.e., with reference to the one divine substance, there is significant correspondence between Christianity and Islam.

However, this correspondence must not let us forget the difference between the two religions. We know that the unity of God is expressed in the mystery of the three divine Persons. Indeed, since he is Love (cf. 1 Jn 4:8), God has always been a Father who gives his whole self in begetting the Son, and both are united in a communion of love which is the Holy Spirit. This distinction and compenetration (perichoresis) of the three divine Persons is not something added to their unity but is its most profound and characteristic expression.

On the other hand, we should not forget that the Trinitarian monotheism distinctive of Christianity is a mystery inaccessible to human reason, which is nevertheless called to accept the revelation of God's inmost nature (cf. CCC, n. 237).

[ealgeone]

There is only one God, the same God, the living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jews, Christians and Moslems seek to worship the one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jews and Moslems reject the concepts of the Divinity of Messiah and the Holy Trinity.

The point though is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is NOT the who Muslims seek.

There is a fundamental difference between the God of the Bible and the false prophet Allah.

That's basic theology 101.

What religious values does Roman Catholicism have in common with Islam?

If Roman Catholics don't get that, then they're really way off base.

[Cronos]

Islam is actually closer to the sola scriptura version — it IS the sola scriptura version.

[Cronos]

Let’s look at the common Bapto beliefs and how they are similar to Islam

Sola scriptura - the same between the baptos and the Sunni Muslims
Authority of the local group - again the same between ya and the Muslims
Priesthood of all believer - again the same
Soul competency - againthe same
once saved always saved - again the same.

Eagleone, bro - you guys share the same beliefs as the Moslems!!

[rollo tomasi]

allah = the god, that is it.

I did not know Arab Christians bowed to Mecca in a ritualistic fashion 5 times a day where the epicenter is some black box/meteorite that has a silver shaped vagina/bed pan embedded in the darn thing.

Arab monotheists way before Muhammad also referred to their god as allah (Again translated to "the god"). Funny how Muhammad chose a crescent moon to symbolize Abraham's "god". Also funny that ancient arabs used to pray to the god (Allah) that was also refereed to as Semitic Sin.

[rollo tomasi]

Sorry, ...also refereed to... = ...also referred to...

[ealgeone]

Let’s look at the common Bapto beliefs and how they are similar to Islam

What in the world is a "Bapto"? Never heard of it.

However, here's the problem for you.

Your denomination, the Roman Catholic church, has in its official documents, a statement saying ya'll worship and adore the same God as the Muslims.

It is patently false.

The God of the Bible is not Allah...unless that is what you are saying.

So be clear.

Is Jehovah the same as Allah?

*****

Now, to your futile attempt to compare the Muslims with the "baptos"...whoever they are.

I assure you the Muslims do not believe in once saved always saved.

Islam is a religion of works (sound familiar?). On the day of judgment, Allah will render to each based on their works....unless one dies in Jihad.

Nor do the Muslims believe in "sola scriptura" as they do not recognize the Bible.

Muslims have the Koran and the Hadiths as their religious texts. The Hadiths are the man-made traditions that Muhammad supposedly passed on to his believers...hey...there's another group that relies very heavily upon man-made traditions....ummm...I'm starting to wonder about you.

*****

In the final analysis it is the Roman Catholic who shares common beliefs with the Muslim.

But I see you are as ill-informed on this topic as you are others.

Do yourself a favor before you continue to embarrass yourself on these forums....stay in the caucus threads. There you and the other four Romans can argue about the legitimacy of your pope.

[ealgeone]

Islam is actually closer to the sola scriptura version — it IS the sola scriptura version.

Do you even know what the term means?

I mean, you've displayed a glaring lack of knowledge in these discussions thus far.

You do know Islam has two books they rely upon...right? The Koran and the man-made Hadiths.

Kinda like another denomination headquarted in Rome, Italy. Scripture + "tradition" (man-made tradition that is)

You keep digging that hole though.

[tjd1454]

“However, the Arabic word for God is Allah.”

- And so it appears in the Arabic Bible. I.e., the word for “God” in the Arabic translation of the Bible is “Allah”, regardless of the fact that many on these threads find it incomprehensible.

The problem is that Muslims redefine the word for God to fit their aberrant theology.

Full disclosure: I have lived in the Arab world and learned this first-hand from Arab Christians.

[Cronos]

Sola scriptura - the written scriptures alone. That’s the similarity with Sunni Islam. they hold to their version alone

[ealgeone]

Sola scriptura - the written scriptures alone. That’s the similarity with Sunni Islam. they hold to their version alone

You continue to display a lack of knowledge of Islam and Christianity.

The Sunni, in addition to the Koran, rely upon the Hadiths...man-made traditions of Muhammed.

The Shiites rely upon the Koran plus their ayatollahs (their priests).

In either case there is nothing in common with sola scriptura. The Islamic model is closer to that of Roman Catholicism.