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Pope Francis then (2014) asked Kräutler as to why these deacons could not also celebrate the Holy Eucharist, and the bishop answered: “because they are married.” It was here that Pope Francis himself brought up the ideas of Bishop Fritz Lobinger, who envisions a “Team of Elders” who lead a parish and are ordained and thus are able to celebrate Mass. These “Elders” could be married – and male or female, as well, according to Lobinger's ideas.

It is significant that Pope Francis brought up the ideas of a man who explicitly wished the ordination of women to the priesthood. But also significant is that he had already discussed Lobinger's ideas back in 2014, while in 2019, he stated in an in-flight press conference that “I’m not saying that it should be done, because I have not reflected, I have not prayed sufficiently about it.”

The above gives evidencea that Francis is both a sneak and a liar.