[DarthVader]

Separation of the wheat from the chaff!!

[Bonemaker]

That’s not the only reason they should un-unite.

[NewHampshireDuo]

Every Sunday when heading to church, we have to drive past the local Methodist church with double rainbow banners flying at the roadside. They celebrate the erf too. Ugh.

[Dilbert San Diego]

It surprises me that we see the issue of homosexuality causing uproar and consternation in religious denominations.

Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised, given how society has gotten more liberal towards “LGBT” types in recent years. I guess I always thought that no matter how far the popular culture sank, that churches would be a bulwark against all of that. Clearly I was mistaken.

So as schisms happen, we will see denominations split into those who are more liberal, and those who hold more to traditional values and doctrines. Perhaps we are just seeing history repeat, as their have been schisms in the past over various issues throughout history.

[MacNaughton]

[BobL]

The Left is thorough, we’ve got to give them credit where it is due. They first take over education, then foundations, then board rooms, then corporate leadership, and now they’re going after our churches.

...and we sit back and ‘tolerate’ it.

[Mom MD]

Unlike the unity we see in the catholic church? You all are so united behind your pope.

[MuttTheHoople]

I left the United Methodist Church in 2006. They rely on Conservative Christian congregations to fund the leftist flagburning gungrabbing babykilling heart of the Congregation.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You can worship sodomy, or you can worship God. You cannot worship both.

[Lysandru]

The UMC has failed to preach good old fashioned biblical content. It failed to engage proactively on holding the line for the culture. Maybe it was because SJWs gained control of most of the seminaries. And we should remember that "social justice" is a big buzzword in the UMC. I am ashamed to admit that one of my former Sunday school students is now one of the pro-LGBTQ+ clergy.

I am a moderate on this stuff--because Christ commanded us to love everyone. But I am well-pleased that the Traditional Plan won at the special General Conference--because I don't believe that Christ repealed the Book of Leviticus. Furthermore, with all of the crap that the Catholic Church and the (former) Boy Scouts are going through because of pedophile leaders, the prudent person should be VERY concerned.

I think that going gay will bring in some social justice warrior types--the Allies--not the gay people themselves (it's kind of like how woke White Liberals are more radical about race relations than Black folks). But others will leave. And if my local congregation goes full libtard, I am heading for the exit.

Meanwhile, the UMC can't bring itself to condemn Democrats backing infanticide.

[bigbob]

John Wesley is spinning like a dynamo.

How can they split the Queer Methodist from the Just Liberal Methodists?

I quit years ago and became and Outdoor Methodist. We like to do outdoor things on Sundays.

[Conservative4Life]

I remember quite a few years back when another religious group did the same thing in Minneapolis. Just as they announced their decision to void the Bible and be inclusive. A tornado came out of nowhere and cleared the street of their celebration.

[Maudeen]

In our neck of the woods, Methodist churches who wanted to separate from the liberal theology lost their buildings . . .that they in fact paid for. Unbelievable. One church was a hundred years old and had been remodeled. . . They were told that the “higher ups” would rather see it turn into a coon hunters barn. Needless to say . . .the country building is vacant. They can’t choose their pastors either. . . they get what they get. We’ve had area pastors of that denomination performing same sex marriages.

[Midwesterner53]

The new Methodist Church will be stronger than ever and devoted to God rather than man. I am proud to be part of the new Methodist Church.

[Albion Wilde]

In the end, the ELCA was left to insist that it was a significant church, whatever that meant, as a consolation prize for its empty pews and church buildings. It goes without saying that Methodism will find the same temptation to ignore the declining numbers and insist that it is significant simply because it says so.

Methodist / former Methodist ping!

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[xzins]

The United Methodist church will probably go one of two routes:

1. It will choose the 3 way split known as the Indianapolis Plan (A traditionalist denomination, a centrist denomination, a progresssive denomination.)

2. It will strengthen the Traditional Plan, supported by conservatives at the last General Conference.

The conservative bloc consists of the African conservatives + the US conservatives. They form a majority. The African bishops have indicated a strong desire to keep the UMC name in Africa, a branding they have sweat blood to establish, so there is a likelihood they won’t support the 3 way split in #1. If so, US conservatives’ only option will be to strengthen the traditional plan and continue the war in the denomination.

The Africans could simultaneously support an easier route for individual churches to depart the denomination. Given the traditional turn of the UMC that would result, that could also result in many centrist/progressive churches leaving the denomination.

My sense at this point is that the Africans have no good reason to split when they think they are winning the war...from their perspective.

For us conservatives here in the states it will be another 8-16 years of war. Many of our churches might choose to depart just out of weariness with the war. Time will tell.

[QualityMan]

Sodom and Gomorrah, redux

Lord Jesus, come quickly...