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[Barf Alert] US bishops oppose Trump immigration plan, say families are foundational
Catholic News Agency ^ | May 19, 2019 | CNA

Posted on 05/20/2019 9:01:43 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: rjsimmon; ebb tide

well at least he didn’t say the catholic church, the pope, or mary the mother of jesus. Those are their usual three go tos.


41 posted on 05/20/2019 10:33:52 AM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Just mythoughts

I remember that. It was infuriating and I’m disappointed to see it hasn’t gone away. You’d think Obama would have ditched it ... except it made for more spending and more government. I think I just answered my own question.


42 posted on 05/20/2019 10:34:37 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2
FEB 25, 2019

2002

President George W. Bush announces plan for “faith-based initiatives”


On this day in 2002, President George W. Bush announces his plan to federally fund faith-based initiatives.

Bush started his day at a National Prayer Breakfast held in the ballroom of the Washington Hilton Hotel, where he explained the basic philosophy behind his plan. In service to others, he said, we find deep human fulfillment. And as acts of service are multiplied, our nation becomes a more welcoming place. Later that day, he announced the new policy from the Oval Office with leading members of Congress and the press in attendance. Bush proposed that faith-based organizations should assume a greater role in providing social-service programs without breaching the separation of church and state. He suggested that government should not discriminate against faith-based programs, but it should encourage them to flourish. Under his plan, religious groups could receive federal funding to implement programs usually carried out by secular non-profit organizations.

A devout Christian, Bush’s plan applied to a multitude of denominations in order to, in his words, unleash these fantastic armies of compassion which exist all across the country. The new policy received bipartisan support, including kudos from leading Senators Joseph Liebermann and Rick Santorum. The senators agreed with Bush that individuals and couples should receive tax breaks for donations to faith-based charities as well as secular organizations.

Bush’s plan to federally fund faith-based programs upset die-hard secularists and debate over the efficacy and constitutionality of the program continued into his second term. While a study by the PEW Forum on Religion and Public Life revealed that approximately 70 percent of Americans prefer that government agencies provide the majority of aid to the needy and poor, the same number supported the right of church organizations to apply for federal funding for their social programs.



43 posted on 05/20/2019 10:38:53 AM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: sparklite2
D A C A the bishops are in it whole hog... Obama and lying Ryan imported so called refugees from God knows where ... but the big money comes from south of the border.
44 posted on 05/20/2019 10:40:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ebb tide

Jesus obeyed the law.

Even when he was sentenced to die for a crime he didn’t commit.


45 posted on 05/20/2019 10:40:25 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Mr. K
DOES THE CHURCH CONTRIBUTE MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR THEM?

The Church contributes millions of dollars to "help" the illegals break U.S. law; however, the vast majority of that money is US taxpayer dollars.

46 posted on 05/20/2019 10:41:54 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: School of Rational Thought
So is there any reason for the Catholic Church?

Yes, eternal salvation.

47 posted on 05/20/2019 10:43:36 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

In their warped world of circular logic:

- Most of these immigrants are Hispanic
- Most Hispanics are Catholic
- Extended chain migration equals more butts in the pews
- More butts in the pews means fuller collection baskets

Follow the money.


48 posted on 05/20/2019 10:57:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ebb tide
US bishops like sexual abuse,death and exploitation of Children. Who is doing the sexual abuse and exploitation? Coyotees and other illegals.

Where is it less likely to happen? LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

DOH!

49 posted on 05/20/2019 10:57:57 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: ebb tide

You are in for a rude awaking if you seriously believe salvation comes from a church. How is it that a church becomes an idol? Christ alone saves and He needs NO man to do His work. Many are called but few are chosen. It is God’s will be done not Rome’s.

By the way why are people refused to comment on caucus threads when they are taxed to fund your church????????????


50 posted on 05/20/2019 11:08:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ebb tide

BISHOPS: MYOB!


51 posted on 05/20/2019 11:16:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Just mythoughts

Hebrews 10:25-26. There is your answer.


52 posted on 05/20/2019 11:18:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: CptnObvious

Correct!


53 posted on 05/20/2019 11:20:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Just mythoughts
By the way why are people refused to comment on caucus threads when they are taxed to fund your church????????????

Is Free Republic taxing you?

54 posted on 05/20/2019 11:22:10 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In other words do that or parishes are SHUT DOWN.


55 posted on 05/20/2019 11:22:15 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide
What ever happened to “Render unto Cesar? Take a fly leap bishops.
56 posted on 05/20/2019 11:24:44 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: ebb tide

As a faithful Catholic who personally knows some bishops, I believe I am on solid theological ground in stating that I value the moral and political opinions of the U.S. bishops as much as a wad of used toilet paper. Perhaps if they are so concerned about the family, they should stop promoting divorce and gay marriage and molesting children; and perhaps they should apply the commandment to honor your parents as it applies to honoring your country and its laws.


57 posted on 05/20/2019 11:27:09 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Salvavida
Were German families foundational during the 3rd Reich?

They ripped Polish children from their families.

58 posted on 05/20/2019 11:28:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Biggirl
Hebrews 10:

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

When the volume of the book is replaced with Job friends talk ignoring the WORDS of Christ and even Peter that 'rock', there is NO salvation in assembling for the traditions of man.

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 26 For if we sin after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no more sacrifice for sins,

Christ declared in Mark 13:20-25 20And except that the LORD had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Notice here all that was to come was already foretold in the volume of the Book... Christ did NOT suggest or even hint a 'church' had authority to ignore what was already Written... add to or take a way comes with a big time consequence...

24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

John records 7 churches in Revelation NOT just one... Some have the approved doctrine and the rest are left wanting.

59 posted on 05/20/2019 11:37:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

YOPIOS.


60 posted on 05/20/2019 11:48:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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