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Pope Francis, you really let us down
American Thinker ^ | 08/30/2018 | By Richard Jack Rail

Posted on 08/30/2018 8:52:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ealgeone

Scripture never claims to be the “only source of truth,” since that would place it above God himself. It also would mean that logic itself isn’t a source of truth, which would make any position on any topic — yours included — impossible to defend.


21 posted on 08/30/2018 9:24:52 AM PDT by Campion
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To: ealgeone

All Truth is God’s, so yes, they contain God’s Truth, but they do not contain ALL of God’s truth. Gasoline is the proper fuel for most internal combustion engines. That is true. It also isn’t in the Bible. Unless one resorts to more extreme Rabbinical means of exegesis.


22 posted on 08/30/2018 9:27:44 AM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Campion
Scripture never claims to be the “only source of truth,” since that would place it above God himself. It also would mean that logic itself isn’t a source of truth, which would make any position on any topic — yours included — impossible to defend.

Good grief....no wonder Rome has problems.

16All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB

23 posted on 08/30/2018 9:27:56 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Hieronymus
All Truth is God’s, so yes, they contain God’s Truth, but they do not contain ALL of God’s truth.

Mormons and Muslims make the same argument.

Gasoline is the proper fuel for most internal combustion engines. That is true. It also isn’t in the Bible. Unless one resorts to more extreme Rabbinical means of exegesis.

Good grief....Roman Catholic apologetics are some of the weakest I've ever encountered.

Scripture contains all we need to know of how to be saved and how to have a relationship with God and others.

24 posted on 08/30/2018 9:30:37 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When you place faith in a false prophet and false doctrine, let downs are to be expected.


25 posted on 08/30/2018 9:33:36 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: ealgeone

But are scripture commentaries good source of help?


26 posted on 08/30/2018 9:34:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

Disgusting homosexualist pope.


27 posted on 08/30/2018 9:34:50 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


28 posted on 08/30/2018 9:36:37 AM PDT by Songcraft
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To: SeekAndFind; newgeezer

The bible is very clear about the roles and responsibilities of the Pope.


29 posted on 08/30/2018 9:40:25 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
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To: ealgeone

There isn’t much of a point in having a discussion with anyone who hasn’t learned the importance of words like all, only, some, and none, doesn’t define terms carefully, and ignores what has been said.

Have a nice day. I’ll say an Ave for you.

Maybe Campion has more time to spare than I.


30 posted on 08/30/2018 9:41:12 AM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: ealgeone

Well yes, Timothy says Scripture is useful, like a hammer is useful to carpentry, but like carpentry it doesnt say it is all that is needed for salvation. Heck it doesnt even mention salvation, but I do see “good works” mentioned.
Not that good works will get you anywhere, right? So what was considered “Scripture” at the time of writing? Cant be anything NT since those books were not established and recognized at the time. Did Timothy consinder this letter he was righting as Scripture. Probably not. hmmm....


31 posted on 08/30/2018 9:44:20 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: ealgeone
Which doesn't begin to support your claim that "all truth" is contained in Scripture. Incidentally, pasa graphe can just as easily mean "every Scripture". The preceding verse speaks of those scriptures Timothy has known "since infancy," which could not have included any of the New Testament.

When Scripture says "the heavens proclaim the glory of God, and the firmament proclaims his handiwork," it explicitly says that the created order testifies to the nature of God, and thereby points to a source of "God's truth" outside itself, proving your original contention wrong.

32 posted on 08/30/2018 9:52:24 AM PDT by Campion
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To: DungeonMaster

RE: The bible is very clear about the roles and responsibilities of the Pope.

Can you refer us to the passage?


33 posted on 08/30/2018 9:52:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: ealgeone
Scripture contains all we need to know of how to be saved and how to have a relationship with God and others.

Which is NOT what you originally claimed. Your theology seems not to be very coherent once you get past Axiom #1, "The Catholics are always wrong"

34 posted on 08/30/2018 9:55:54 AM PDT by Campion
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To: SeekAndFind
Pope Francis, you really let us down


35 posted on 08/30/2018 9:56:47 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries “racism”, a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: ealgeone
Scripture contains all we need to know of how to be saved and how to have a relationship with God and others.

Which is NOT what you originally claimed. Your theology seems not to be very coherent once you get past Axiom #1, "The Catholics are always wrong"

36 posted on 08/30/2018 9:58:10 AM PDT by Campion
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To: gaijin

Before this is over it will be shown that JPII also allowed the homos to run rampant.

I pray it was “merely” poor administrative skills and not something worse.


37 posted on 08/30/2018 9:59:01 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries “racism”, a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Campion

Yeah, that statement seems man-made; unbiblical


38 posted on 08/30/2018 9:59:33 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Jeff Chandler

JP II inherited a mess.


39 posted on 08/30/2018 10:02:15 AM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Campion

Once again I click on an article only to find the discussion about the subject of the article overshadowed by an enormous inter-denominational pissing contest.

It’s a broken record.


40 posted on 08/30/2018 10:04:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries “racism”, a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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