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Small crowd for papal Mass in Ireland (Only 130,000 of the 500,000 who bought tickets showed up)
American Thinker ^ | 08/27/2018 | Rick Moran

Posted on 08/27/2018 11:25:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
The Irish have had an interesting relationship with Rome dating back to the 12th century, when the Papacy backed the Anglo-Norman invasion of the knight Richard de Clare (Strongbow) followed by his Liege Lord Henry II, and the forceful "Romanization" of Irish Catholicism. Following the conversion of the Irish by St. Patrick, which involved adaptation to established local customs, the Irish church had been enormously successful and actually led the "Dark Ages" restoration of Christianity in Scotland, Britain, and the Continent. But Rome would not tolerate an independent and free thinking monastic based church and Ireland was brought into line. Abuses by the church in Ireland, including the virtual slavery of women and girls in the Magdelene "Asylums" are famous and Francis' apostasy and tolerance of priestly sodomy may be kicking over a long sleeping hornets nest.
21 posted on 08/27/2018 12:48:10 PM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: Yaelle

But you need your Pope to step up... or step down. Time to be open about this. Shine the light on it and the crimes and sins will not be able to survive.

(((

Oh, I totally agree. Shine the light and clean up the mess. Getting Francis the Fraud to step down will be a big part of the reform.


22 posted on 08/27/2018 12:49:25 PM PDT by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})
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To: Jeff Chandler

I thought Francis’ eschewing the trappings of the office was nothing but hubris on his part. There was nothing humble about it. He is a vile man who knew about the deep homosexual and pedophilia vein in the CC and did nothing about it.


23 posted on 08/27/2018 12:52:47 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: dfwgator

No, not *much* worse.

Worse, maybe in a few isolated situations, but the homosexual problem in Roman Catholicism has been going on for over 1,000 years, and who knows how long the abuse of boys has been part of that.

And the cover up is beyond excuse or being excusable.

Roman Catholicism doesn’t deserve to survive this and they have forfeited the right to call themselves the body of Christ with the kind of sordid, corrupt, immoral history it has to show for itself.

The bigger tragedy is the spiritual damage done to people by priests all in the name of Christ, men who claim to have the power to send people to heaven or hell, and claim to represent Christ here on earth.


24 posted on 08/27/2018 12:56:41 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: lee martell

Pope St. John Paul II drew a crowd of 1.25 million in this very same location in 1979.

I think it was more than just the weather.


25 posted on 08/27/2018 1:02:51 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: pbear8

In 2002, the homoclerical demonocracy that currently runs the institutions of the Church cleaned up some of the most vile symptoms of the problem. They basically said, “Move your preferred victim target range of 13 - 17 year-old boys to 18 - 22 year-old young men. The sex isn’t quite as great for us, but it’ll keep us all out of prison.”


26 posted on 08/27/2018 1:08:42 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: originalbuckeye

And then there was the Church’s support for the murderous Ustashe in Croatia during WWII.


27 posted on 08/27/2018 1:09:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Probably what remaining faithful Catholics there are in Ireland remember that Rome said absolutely nothing during the Irish abortion debate.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-irish-catholics-did-not-receive-support-from-rome-in-abortio


28 posted on 08/27/2018 1:38:14 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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