Posted on 04/12/2018 1:31:13 PM PDT by fwdude
Coming Home Network
In my city, a church changed its name to "Relevant Life church".
I agree. I can put up with doctrinal differences until they preach another gospel. Many churches began as home bible studies.
I know someone who is in one of the mainline churches which openly embraces homosexual behavior and this particular congregation is led by a man “married” to another man and with adopted children (boys). Said individual is very involved in church activities and grasps a Book of Common Prayer.
It’s a very hedonistic church.
The homos take the fun out of everything. If you won't celebrate their perverted "unions," they won't let you celebrate straight male-female marriage at all.
Not as many as other churches.
Already in the 1990s, I started to hear comments from clientele in my vocation who were also Christian:
“There is no discernment in the church.”
“The real Church is underground.”
I started studying the Word at 5, with the desire to be a man after God’s own heart. I attended pastoral conferences by special invitation at 16. I served in lay ministry in two denominations. I saw inside, firsthand, how corrupted the clergy are by Frankfurt Seminaries. I chose not to attend one.
I know for a fact that many who say the expected things in public do not privately embrace the Resurrection, among other things.
I have found that the “conservative” churches focus on doctrine over wisdom, while the “liberal” ones focus on feeling over conduct.
There is little space for spiritual discernment or spiritual righteousness either way. I could write a book - and may do so - on the things I have witnessed.
To those who are saying there is no perfect church, I rebut with what an old friend once said:
“The problem is not that the institutionalized church does live up to its own press; it is that it does not even admit that it does not live up to its own press.”
(It takes far more than merely saying, ‘We are not perfect,’ to demonstrate real confession and repentance.)
I have personally known a famous pastor (and author) who committed sexual sins, and who wanted - to his credit - to confess before the congregation, but was dissuaded from doing so by the elders of the church. I knew another pastor that allowed a lapsed person to continue serving the church in a functional capacity (as bookkeeper), only to end up murdered by a jealous husband in broad daylight for committing adultery. Both ended up local scandals - the latter immediately, the former after more than ten years passed - bringing disrepute to the name of Christ.
These were “orthodox” ministers. These were “Bible-believing” congregations.
My atypical history has acquainted me with scores - perhaps hundreds - of ordained ministers. I have learned to regard most as cowards: either toadies or bullies. It is a career to them, and they will not endanger that to follow the Lord where it leads.
You may all think and say what you like. I think we are headed back to the Catacombs.
I trust you have much more discernment than most. It’s horrifying what has come into churches. But when you have corporate-styled behemoths with million dollar annual payrolls, power does tend to corrupt.
I found a church I liked and I’m picky. I grilled the paster.
Then at Christmas we attended and the assistant paster was doing the service. He announced that miracles went out with the apostles. He had never seen a miracle in his life. This guy was in charge of the church school.
Geez. On Christmas, yet. I give up. I pray at home in my prayer closet.
Most baptists who adhere to the group doctrine believe this as well. At least "miracles" in the literal sense, like missing body parts being instantly regenerated or lost sight restored, not a drenching rain during a prolonged drought.
The fake liberal "Christians" go a step further and deny miracles even during the apostle's time, dismissing the feeding of the five thousand as just corporate sharing.
Don't even try to dig into Holy Spirit baptism subsequent to the New Birth.
Sounds like my experience working for Air Force military chaplains back in the 1990's.
I was in a staff meeting. I was a "chapel manager," not a chaplain. There were about nine chaplains there, and three chapel managers. The head chaplain was a woman who was known for being a very liberal United Methodist chaplain and who was also very bi-polar. She hated the ground I walked on because I was a Free Methodist and therefore a renegade Methodist.
During that staff meeting she said we would have to allow Satanic worship services in the chapel and me, being a chapel manager, would have to support it. I told her emphatically, "No ma'am, I will not do so. That goes against my Christian faith." She exploded in rage and either shouted angrily, or sobbed uncontrollably, or rambled incoherently, for about 15 minutes because I went against the directive she just gave us.
After the meeting ended a Baptist chaplain came up to me and said he agreed with me but he couldn't say anything because it would cost him a chance at promotion to Lt Col that was coming up. I was dumbfounded, I literally could not think of what to say because I was so shocked by his comment.
You may all think and say what you like. I think we are headed back to the Catacombs.
I believe you are correct.
Plus, our Latin Masses at least, comes sans lasers, disco mirrors, rock bands, YouTube videos, married homosexual priests, imagined glossalia and fainting spells and are identical from location to location and time to time. Smoke, however, can be present (incense).
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