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In his own words – Billy Graham on Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Posted on 01/12/2018 5:33:17 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose

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VIDEO: "Taking Down the Ropes of Segregation"

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1 posted on 01/12/2018 5:33:17 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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2 posted on 01/12/2018 5:36:56 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I have no use for Billy Graham ever since he said that Hillary would make a great president, nor do I have any use for MLK. If he were alive today, I think he’d be trumpeting the same crap as Jessie Jackson and Sharpton.


3 posted on 01/12/2018 5:37:21 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Ciaphas Cain

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Reverend Billy Graham received criticism from both conservatives and liberals for his Civil Rights advocacy. The movement was too complex and multi-faceted to put under a neat “Democrat” or “Republican” political umbrella.

But one thing we should be able to agree on at this point, as Christians and as Americans: that GOD was behind it, and He used all kinds of people to accomplish His ends. And that the full fruition of the movement will be realized in Heaven.

“...After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb...” ~ Revelation 7:9


4 posted on 01/12/2018 5:38:51 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

He said and believed a lot of things I didn’t and don’t agree with but he was an American who did not believe in violence to achieve ends. Whatever your politics, that’s the American way.

He was a registered Republican. Most blacks were after the Civil War, although that began to change during the Roosevelt era.

He was not a conservative. Had he been, his movement would have gone farther, faster. Dixiecrats abhorred him.


5 posted on 01/12/2018 6:01:05 PM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Combat_Liberalism

MLK, Jr. was not a registered Republican. That’s been debunked here many times (based on a poorly researched article from a decade ago). The sole claim was that he voted for Eisenhower once in 1956, but so did Democrat Congressman from NYC Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.


6 posted on 01/12/2018 6:04:01 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I admire, and have great respect for, Billy Graham.

And I also think highly of Dr King, even though he was far from perfect.

I’m so far from perfect that I find it pretty easy to cut others a lot of slack....I’m a modest man, I have a lot to be modest about...lol


7 posted on 01/12/2018 6:08:50 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Very good post.


8 posted on 01/12/2018 6:11:52 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Bobalu

I’m with you. Both Billy Graham and MLK made us a better people.


9 posted on 01/12/2018 6:36:50 PM PST by Helotes
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Let's face it, the best thing to ever happen to Martin Luther King Jr.--that old plagiarist, con-man and whoremonger--was to get shot. If he had been alive today, he'd be as odious and irrelevant as any black Democratic politician, which is to say, pretty odious and irrelevant!
10 posted on 01/12/2018 6:51:59 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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But one thing we should be able to agree on at this point, as Christians and as Americans: that GOD was behind it, and He used all kinds of people to accomplish His ends. And that the full fruition of the movement will be realized in Heaven.

If anything, the whole civil rights movement has been more of a curse on the entire nation. Not only are children brainwashed into a cult of civil rights worship, even literally singing praises to the rather sleazy and corrupt MLK, but "civil rights" history essentially dominates all of United States' history in the schools. No student these days learns much of anything else except that MLK is basically a God and white men are evil. Real history, real values, real movements with worthy values are all cast to the wayside.

All the blacks got out of it was the right to drink from non-colored water fountains and unlimited welfare, affirmative action, and all sorts of goodies that do them no good. They still segregate themselves and their mass violence, criminality and rape goes beyond any level it ever was before.

11 posted on 01/12/2018 6:58:33 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I was watching a short bio on Martin Luther, the German reformer, and learned that M.L.K., Jr. changed his name from Michael King to Martin Luther King after studying Luther’s methods for non-violent reform.


12 posted on 01/12/2018 7:01:48 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Some people accomplish very beneficial things in the world, even though they may be flawed human beings.


13 posted on 01/12/2018 7:27:25 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

How do you think that things have might have gone differently?

It’s easy to criticize the people who tried to foster change; nobody is perfect. But there would have been NO change, unless someone - however imperfect - had been willing to step up to the plate, and TRY.

How do you suppose that things could have been done differently?


14 posted on 01/12/2018 7:32:33 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: boatbums

Then where did the “jr.” come from?


15 posted on 01/12/2018 7:56:22 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

Martin Luther King Jr. (born Michael King Jr., January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968).


16 posted on 01/13/2018 12:56:34 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I don’t know how Michael King voted but his niece Alveda King is a staunch Republican and big supporter of President Trump. She’s also one of the biggest pro life advocates in the country.


17 posted on 02/28/2018 9:08:02 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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He was a Socialist, trained at the Highlander Folk School (a Communist facility), so he voted Democrat (with only the known 1956 exception). He was militantly against Goldwater in 1964, calling him a “tool of Southern racists”, despite Goldwater being pro-civil rights (but opposing overreaching anti-Libertarian efforts in the 1964 act), and probably would’ve voted Humphrey in the ‘68 general had he not been killed.

His father stopped voting Republican by 1960 (before the general election). Alveda King was elected as a Democrat to the GA House of Representatives in 1978 and 1980. She didn’t become a Republican until the 1990s, though she was a pro-life advocate when she was still a Dem.


18 posted on 02/28/2018 9:32:47 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: GoldenState_Rose
King was not an orthodox chrstian at all. He rejected all the supernatural doctrines of chrstianity and engaged in radical German historical criticism of the Bible. He simply used chrstianity to promote a purely secular ethical code, much as the Unitarian Universalists and Ethical Culturists do.

Billy had to have known this. Too bad he never challenged his liberal "theology."

19 posted on 02/28/2018 11:34:00 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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Hmm...people go through phases in their walks. Some people are Protestants who die Catholics. Some people go through agnostic periods of doubt. Some people switch from Arminianism to Calvinism etc...but I think the bigger point here is that Graham took a stand against racial segregation at a crucial juncture of history.

There is no place for it in the kingdom of God on earth or in Heaven. Racism is straight from Satan and the depths of hell.

Regardkmg any historical person’s personal standing with God upon their death, I guess we will see in Heaven!


20 posted on 02/28/2018 3:07:27 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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