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West's Atheization Worse Than What Happened in USSR - Patriarch Kirill
Interfax ^ | 11/22/17

Posted on 11/26/2017 5:51:18 PM PST by marshmallow

Moscow, November 22, Interfax - Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia is alarmed by the rise of atheism in the West.

"What we are seeing today, particularly in Western countries, is far more dreadful than what happened to religion in the Soviet Union: the rapid atheization, the expulsion of God from human life, disregard for the divine, the moral law," the patriarch said at a meeting with Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby in Moscow.

There was a time when atheism was being planted in the Soviet Union, but "the weakness of that atheization consisted in the fact that it was a consequence of the plantation of an ideology, and ideologies do not live long: once an ideology is gone, there is less atheization," Patriarch Kirill said.

He is particularly alarmed by the enshrinement of the West's neglect of moral values in national legislation, which is "a very dangerous trend."

"If people, by virtue of the state law, are made to sympathize with sin or feel solidarity with sin, then the entry into a pre-apocalyptic reality is approaching," the patriarch said.


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists; deathofthewest; patriarchkrill; secularization; trends

1 posted on 11/26/2017 5:51:18 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Not really. Lousy Russian propaganda. Not buying this.


2 posted on 11/26/2017 6:02:57 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: marshmallow
 is far more dreadful than what happened to religion in the Soviet Union
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Government imposed atheism is better than atheistic individuals coming to their own conclusions?
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"If people, by virtue of the state law, are made to sympathize with sin or feel solidarity with sin, then the entry into a pre-apocalyptic reality is approaching," the patriarch said.
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Pre-apocalyptic reality seems to be always descending on the West, but lands in the East.
3 posted on 11/26/2017 6:08:00 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: All; marshmallow

Don't be fooled by outward appearances. The Russians are mighty clever when it comes to sophisticated acts of deception. The KGB and its successor the FSB were/are notorious for it.

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From the Russian Orthodox Church's website...

WCC welcomes meeting of Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill for unity and peace

WCC welcomes meeting of Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill for unity and peace

12 February 2016

Rev. Dr Olav Fykse Tveit, general secretary of the World Council of Churches (WCC), has issued a statement on behalf of the Council hailing the historic meeting of Pope Francis, pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, and Patriarch Kirill, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The two leaders met on 12 February in Havana, Cuba.

The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest member church in the WCC..."

https://www.oikoumene.org/en/press-centre/news/wcc-welcomes-meeting-of-pope-francis-and-patriarch-kirill

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Catch that? The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest member of the (hard left) World Council of Churches!

That is all you need to know to understand that it is a sham operation. Reverend Wright’s fake church United Church of Christ (UCC) is also a member. In fact, his (communist) “Black Liberation Theology” was concocted by the KGB.

The Russians must laugh their butts off at how easily westerners can be tricked and deceived. They are great chess players, thinking many moves ahead of their opponents, while most of us, unfortunately, have a difficult time at simple checkers.

The Russian Orthodox Church is a member of the (communist) World Council of Churches:
https://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches/russian-orthodox-church
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES (WCC)

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August, 2006

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North Korea Builds an Orthodox Church

The first-ever Russian Orthodox church will open in Pyongyang, North Korea this weekend.

It’s an odd project considering that freedom of religion exists almost exclusively on paper in the closed communist country.

North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Il is supposed to be a communist atheist.

So why has he made promoting the Russia Orthodox Church his latest pet project?

On August 13, the country’s first Orthodox church is to be opened in the capital city of Pyongyang.

Russian Metropolitan Bishop Kyrill, second in command within the Church after the Patriarch, will travel to Pyongyang to christen the new house of worship. ...”

http://www.spiegel.de/international/kim-jong-il-and-religion-north-korea-builds-an-orthodox-church-a-431310.htm

4 posted on 11/26/2017 6:09:35 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: All; marshmallow

Christians in Russia Refuse to Stop Sharing the Gospel Despite Putin’s Ban on Evangelism

By Stoyan Zaimov , Christian Post Reporter
Aug 3, 2016 | 1:32 PM

Christians in Russia have said they are determined to preach the Gospel and fulfill the Great Commission despite tough new laws signed by President Vladimir Putin that ban evangelism outside of churches. ...”

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-russia-refuse-stop-sharing-the-gospel-despite-putins-ban-evangelism-167442/
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July 2016...

FAITH UNDER FIRE

Russia puts lid on Christians sharing faith

Will require any sharing ... even a casual conversation, to have prior authorization from state

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/russia-puts-lid-on-christians-sharing-faith/#34c1Fo2QT9xudcrR.99
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July 2016...

“Activities as diverse as holding prayer meetings in homes, posting worship times on a religious community’s website, and giving a lecture on yoga have all been interpreted by police and prosecutors as “missionary activity”, thanks to the broad definition now enshrined in the Religion Law.

Despite a clear predominance of prosecutions brought against those who see their faith as requiring them to publicly share their beliefs, such as Protestants and Jehovah’s Witnesses, people from at least 15 different religious traditions have faced charges.” ..."

On 6 July 2016, President Vladimir Putin signed amendments to the Religion Law imposing harsh restrictions on the sharing of beliefs, including on where and by whom they may be shared. ..."

http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2305

5 posted on 11/26/2017 6:10:23 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: marshmallow

I once knew the son of a Russian immigrant who lived in Hollywood, Calif. and was active in the Russian Orthodox Church (and also the Young Americans for Freedom, Youth for Reagan, and a few other noble causes). At the time, there were three such churches in Hollywood. He said that one of them was pro-Moscow and probably run by the KGB, but the others were legit.


6 posted on 11/26/2017 6:23:15 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: marshmallow

Umm, no. They killed ten of million of their people under godless communism. Deliberately murdered people who were Christian.

Sorry, this is what feminized propaganda history is like.


7 posted on 11/26/2017 6:37:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marshmallow

Only in a manner of speaking. The Soviets slaughtered priests and conducted mass murder against believers. You might say that this brought the faithful closer to God.


8 posted on 11/26/2017 6:37:09 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I believe he’s alluding to homosexual “marriage”. At least that’s my interpretation of the last line of the article.


9 posted on 11/26/2017 6:39:41 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: Fiji Hill

The messenger is not the message. Atheism in the west is rampant and growing. Its evil is pervasive. It is the enemy of the Living God, the Maker of the Universe. Atheism is the principle lie of Satan.
There are believers who oppose the Trump revolution. They are few, scattered, and misled. The great numbers who oppose the Revolution are atheists. They believe themselves to be the source of all wisdom. They have given us the most terrible evil in human history, the slaughter of 100 million innocent lives, our babies.
The World Council of Churches is a mega-maniacal pantheon of false gods and global supremacists. They cannot be considered the full expression of the Body of Christ.
The Russian Orthodox church is not in league with the forces of atheism.
The enemy of mankind is the rejection of God. Atheism is a foul plague that can only be eradicated by the Living God.
Pray for the conversion of atheists. Encounter them in your daily lives. Bring them into the light of Christ’s salvation.


10 posted on 11/26/2017 6:43:11 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: marshmallow
Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia is alarmed by the rise of atheism in the West.

"What we are seeing today, particularly in Western countries, is far more dreadful than [similar to] what happened to religion in the Soviet Union: the rapid atheization, the expulsion of God from human life, disregard for the divine, the moral law," the patriarch said at a meeting with Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby in Moscow.

There was a time when atheism was being planted in the Soviet Union, but "the weakness of that atheization consisted in the fact that it was a consequence of the plantation of an ideology, and ideologies do not live long: once an ideology is gone, there is less atheization," Patriarch Kirill said.

He is particularly alarmed by the enshrinement of the West's neglect of moral values in national legislation, which is "a very dangerous trend."

"If people, by virtue of the state law, are made to sympathize with sin or feel solidarity with sin, then the entry into a pre-apocalyptic reality is approaching," the patriarch said.

Patriarch Krill's statement, when read as a comparison of parallel rather than a comparison of degree, makes sense and allows the observation that Christianity was taken from Russians by force while the West gives it up voluntarily for Sodomite praise.

11 posted on 11/26/2017 7:02:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The World Council of Churches is a mega-maniacal pantheon of false gods and global supremacists. They cannot be considered the full expression of the Body of Christ. The Russian Orthodox church is not in league with the forces of atheism.

I just provided info to the fact that the Russian orthodox church is, not just in league with communist Liberation Theology and LT proponents like Pope Francis, they created it (LT), via the KGB. And Patriarch Kirill, current head of Russian Orthodox church, was front and center in the process.

12 posted on 11/26/2017 7:21:22 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: All

Something to consider as a definite possibility...

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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Link to read "New Lies for Old" online:
https://archive.org/details/GolitsynAnatoleTheNewLiesForOldOnes
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Link to read "The Perestroika Deception" online:
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TVvzZzfXiMBkMdvD
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"Gentlemen, Comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years.

These are primarily for outward consumption.

There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes.

Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep".

-- Mikhial Gorbachev, former President of the Soviet Union, to the Politburo in November of 1987.




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America’s Coming Crisis: Prophetic Warnings, Divine Destiny
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13 posted on 11/26/2017 8:14:07 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The winning post. The west has become new Christian missionary territory.


14 posted on 11/27/2017 4:04:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: ETL

The article was about atheism.
My comment was about atheism.
Speak to the issue.


15 posted on 11/27/2017 5:44:25 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Communism is atheist. How’s that?


16 posted on 11/27/2017 5:50:14 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: Biggirl

Christian churches in Africa and South Korea are sending evangelical missionaries to the US to bring souls to Christ. The US is fertile ground for the Gospel.


17 posted on 11/27/2017 6:27:30 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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