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With prophetic implications, the Kurds, known as the Medes in the Bible ... (Not My Blog)
Joel C. Rosenberg's Blog ^ | June 17, 2014 | Joel Rosenberg

Posted on 09/27/2017 7:14:58 AM PDT by tired&retired

The Kurds, generally, are Sunni Muslims, but they are not ethnically Arabs. Indeed, many Kurds have a deep hatred for the Arabs. Several decades ago, the world create a special, protected, autonomous region for the Kurds in the north region of Iraq, after Saddam Hussein repeated attacked and tried to destroy the Kurds, including with the use of chemical weapons.

Ultimately, many Kurds want to create an independent country of their own, uniting Kurds living in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey. Yet each of those national governments strongly oppose the creation of an independent Kurdistan.

What’s fascinating is that the modern Kurdish people were known in ancient, Biblical times as the Medes. Here is where things get interesting.

Bible prophecy indicates that in the End Times, as we get closer to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, God will allow the Medes to gain power, even as the Lord allows the Arabs to gain power and rebuild the kingdom of Babylon in the heart of Iraq.

The Book of Revelation, for example, tells us that Babylon will be the epicenter of evil in the last days of history, and will eventually face the judgment of God. The Hebrew prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel tell us this, as well, indicating Babylon will be completely destroyed and when the judgment is complete, Babylon will be completely uninhabitable.

Indeed, Isaiah 13:20 says of Babylon, “It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; nor will the Arab pitch his tent there, nor will shepherds make their flocks lie down there.”

What’s more, Bible prophecy indicates that God will raise up the Medes — that is, the Kurdish people — to be an instrument of judgment against Babylon.

How exactly will these eschatological prophecies come to pass?

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In light of the current movement to allow the Kurds in Syria to form their own government, I did a Google search and found this interesting Blog Comment from 2014. It is not my blog nor do I know the author.

I just find his comments very insightful.

Love to hear other thoughts on this.


1 posted on 09/27/2017 7:14:58 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Isaiah 13:17 — “Behold, I am going to stir up the Medes against them [the Babylonians]….”

Jeremiah 51:11 — “The Lord has aroused the spirit of the kings of the Medes, because His purpose is against Babylon to destroy it; for it is the vengeance of the Lord….”

Jeremiah 51:28-29 — “Consecrate the nations against her, the kings of the Medes, their governors and all their prefects, and every land of their dominion. So the land quakes and writhes, for the purposes of the Lord against Babylon stand, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without inhabitants….”


2 posted on 09/27/2017 7:15:27 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Kurds are Medes is a new one.


3 posted on 09/27/2017 7:17:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: tired&retired

But apparently new only to Old Ben...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes#Kurds_and_Medes


4 posted on 09/27/2017 7:18:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

LOL I just came here to post that exact link.


5 posted on 09/27/2017 7:21:28 AM PDT by posterchild ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - R. Feynman)
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To: tired&retired

Yes and not only Iraq but also Turkey and Iran fear the Kurds and the Kurdish people!!


6 posted on 09/27/2017 7:22:31 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

I started researching this topic due to another thread from this morning.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3589575/posts

Northern Syria answers Damascus: We are ready for negotiations (After ISIS, real deal?)

My Post was:

Per Wiki:

The number of Kurds living in Southwest Asia is estimated at close to 30 million, with another one or two million living in diaspora.

Kurds comprise anywhere from 18% to 20% of the population in Turkey,[1] possibly as high as 25%;[39] 15 to 20% in Iraq;[1] 10% in Iran;[1] and 9% in Syria.[1][40] Kurds form regional majorities in all four of these countries, viz. in Turkish Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan, Iranian Kurdistan and Syrian Kurdistan. The Kurds are the fourth largest ethnic group in West Asia after the Arabs, Persians, and Turks.

The total number of Kurds in 1991 was placed at 22.5 million, with 48% of this number living in Turkey, 18% in Iraq, 24% in Iran, and 4% in Syria.[41]

Recent emigration accounts for a population of close to 1.5 million in Western countries, about half of them in Germany.


7 posted on 09/27/2017 7:26:18 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Not my blog


Yer just scared of HG. :-P


8 posted on 09/27/2017 7:33:01 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: tired&retired
I know the Turks really fear the Kurds (hiding fear behind hatred makes the Turks seem more "manly" so it's hatred instead of fear.)

When the U.S. marched into Iraq, the people found wanting our help and agreeing to fighting along with us, were the Peshmurga Kurds - not the Shia or Sunnis!

Cheney had it right but the sissies in the Bush Admin. also disliked the Kurds for some Global Governing reason of Condi/Colin, yet the Kurds controlled the oil and riches in Iraq and still do even though ISIS and government in Iraq have tried killing them off!

9 posted on 09/27/2017 7:35:48 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: BenLurkin

Another interesting Wiki Link:

Origin of the Kurds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Kurds

Thanks for your post. Per the Wiki Link:

The Medes were an ancient Iranian people who lived in an area known as Media (northwestern Iran) and who spoke the Median language. At around 1100 to 1000 BC, they inhabited the mountainous area of northwestern Iran and the northeastern and eastern region of Mesopotamia and located in the Kermanshah-Hamadan (Ecbatana) region[5]

Their emergence in Iran is thought to have occurred between 800 BC to around 700 BC and in the 7th century the whole of western Iran and some other territories were under Median rule. Its precise geographical extension remains unknown.[6]

A few archaeological sites (discovered in the “Median triangle” in western Iran) and textual sources (from contemporary Assyrians and also ancient Greeks in later centuries) provide a brief documentation of the history and culture of the Median state. Apart from a few personal names, the language of the Medes is unknown.

The Medes had an ancient Iranian religion (a form of pre-Zoroastrian Mazdaism or Mithra worshipping) with a priesthood named as “Magi”. Later during the reigns of the last Median kings, the reforms of Zoroaster spread into western Iran.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 7:36:53 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired
I have read a few of Mr. Rosenberg's books and I think he is a pretty serious scholar that has pretty good discernment. You might not agree with his assessment, but he has integrity and a very good understanding of both geopolitics and Biblical interpretation.
11 posted on 09/27/2017 7:37:01 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: tired&retired

bookmark


12 posted on 09/27/2017 7:39:23 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: robroys woman

“Not my blog”
“Yer just scared of HG. :-P”

LOL... Years in academia has trained me to reference to source as much as possible.

When I find interesting topics I try to do factual research and read opinions of others rather than just jumping to my own conclusions (and off the cliff!)


13 posted on 09/27/2017 7:41:04 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Another interesting commentary

Revenge of the Kurds: Kurdistan’s Future in Bible Prophecy
by Jeremy Stevens

http://blogs.christianpost.com/geopolitics-and-bible-prophecy/revenge-of-the-kurds-kurdistans-future-in-bible-prophecy-14247/


14 posted on 09/27/2017 7:46:23 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Here is a current very good article on this topic by Rosenberg:

The U.S. & West should support Kurdish independence. Here’s why. [Analysis of Kurdish referendum, to be held on Sept. 25]

https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2017/09/24/the-u-s-west-should-support-kurdish-independence-heres-why-analysis-of-kurdish-referendum-to-be-held-on-sept-25/


15 posted on 09/27/2017 7:49:24 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: BenLurkin; tx_eggman

I more closely relate them to the Wheys then the Medes.

That makes Ms. Muffett quite the slut, though, doesn’t it.


16 posted on 09/27/2017 7:52:07 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: tired&retired

Per the recent article by

“Unfortunately, the Trump administration also opposes the referendum, or at least its timing. This is a mistake. The Kurds deserve their freedom now.”Along the way, the Kurds have proven themselves staunch and faithful allies of the U.S. and the West.

“They (Kurds) helped us fight and defeat Saddam Hussein in the 2003 war. [see a detailed account in Bob Woodward’s book, Plan of Attack: The Definitive Account of the Decision to Invade Iraq and subsequent books by Woodward on the war.]

They have helped the West effectively fight the Islamic State in Iraq.

They have helped the West effectively fight the Islamic State in Syria.

They have welcomed thousands of Iraqi Christians, Yazidis and other minorities when they were fleeing from ISIS genocide.

They have built a growing economy and a stable, functioning, pluralistic and imperfect but reasonably democratic society.

They were promised a real partnership in a democratic, pluralistic Iraqi government, but those promises failed to materialize, as well.

What’s more, they have close and long-standing commercial and intelligence ties to, and warm relations with, the State of Israel [Israel is the only government that has openly supported Kurdish independence] and can be an ally in Middle East peace-making.” (end of quote)


17 posted on 09/27/2017 7:54:36 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

The Medes were in NW Iran, but also more in what is now Azerbaijan and Dagestan, which is about where the map label “Russia” is. I don’t know what ethnic ties there might be, but I understand Kurds to be rather similar to Germans.


18 posted on 09/27/2017 7:59:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: tired&retired

Found this: Kurdish and MEdian are both languages from the West Iranian branch of the Indo-European languages


19 posted on 09/27/2017 8:02:29 AM PDT by dangus
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To: tired&retired

****The Medes had an ancient Iranian religion (a form of pre-Zoroastrian Mazdaism****

So they are part of the Rotary Club?


20 posted on 09/27/2017 8:03:38 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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