Skip to comments.18-year-old Aussie loses her job for saying ‘it’s OK to vote no’ on same-sex ‘marriage’
Posted on 09/20/2017 4:37:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
An Australian childrens entertainment company fired a young woman for saying on social media its OK to vote no in the countrys current referendum on same-sex marriage.
Capital Kids Parties owner Madlin Sims may have violated discrimination laws in firing an 18-year-old because Sims said her former employees view amounted to hate speech, The Guardian reported.
The young woman known thus far as Madeline said in various media interviews that she was let go because her Christian view did not allow her to vote yes in Australias voluntary postal survey on gay marriage. The plebiscite runs from September 12 through November 7.
Sims posted on Facebook that she had fired a staff member who made it public knowledge that they feel its OK to vote no, and that she viewed saying so as hate speech. The social media account was inactive at press time.
Advertising your desire to vote no for [same-sex marriage] is, in my eyes, hate speech, Sims said.
She said there were prior conversations had, so it wasnt a case of youre voting no, youre fired.
Sims said having an employee who was extremely out & proud about her views on homosexuality was a risk to her customers and equated a no vote with being homophobic.
"It's not OK to vote no, she stated. It's not OK to be homophobic. This isn't a matter of opinion or even religion."
Sims brother reportedly asked Madeline to take the its OK to say no message down from Facebook, but Madeline had gotten no word from Capital Kids Parties until she was fired.
The Coalition for Marriages Bill Shorten declined to comment on this specific case but said, People should not be dismissed from their employment for having different views about marriage equality.
Peoples job security shouldnt be threatened by that, he said. No one should risk losing their job because they are either voting yes or no.
The Guardian report said the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) Human Rights Commission affirmed it could be illegal to fire an employee or contractor for their religious and political views, along with their sex, gender identity or sexuality.
You can bring a complaint on that basis, discrimination commissioner Karen Toohey said. Its a decision for the ACT civil and administrative tribunal [to determine].
Both Sydney University associate professor Belinda Smith and Tim Lyons, research fellow for progressive think-tank Per Capita, said the law protects political and religious views of employees and contractors, irrespective of whether they support or oppose gay marriage.
If religious convictions are a protected attribute as they are in [the] ACT then generally it is not permissible to fire someone for those convictions. This could constitute direct discrimination, Smith said.
She noted, though, that employers can generally prescribe what workers can and cant say and do on the job to clients.
Lyons, also former Australian Council of Trade Unions assistant secretary, said it was important to note that discrimination law works both ways.
Laws banning discrimination based on a persons religious or political convictions protect both sides, Lyons said.
As long as the expression of your views isnt threatening people in the workplace ... and is not hate speech, then clearly youve got a right to your views, he said. The irony is that people on the right loudly protesting the so-called politically-correct thought police will have their rights protected by those laws as well.
Saying its OK to vote no was a pretty gentle way of stating a view that would not constitute hate speech or vilification, said Katharine Gelber, a University of Queensland professor and free speech expert.
Any alleged violation of employer policy would hinge on whether an employee or contractor was identified with the employer on their social media account, Gelber said.
Its not unusual for employers, particularly in the public service, to have strict guidelines about political issues, she said. Employers are increasingly controlling the views of their workers on social media, which could be seen as an overreach.
A recent poll conducted by international Internet-based market research firm YouGov indicated 59 percent of Australians said they were in favor of changing the law to allow same-sex marriage, with saying 33 percent they were not in favor and 9 percent who did not know. A Guardian Essential poll released around the same time had 55 percent favoring legalizing gay marriage and 34 percent opposed.
The woman who fired her is a filthy leftist thug. I can only hope for the day when the leftist pig will be fired and ruined for expressing her intolerance.
I feel for her but honestly you serve at the pleasure of your employer. Even where I work in the South it’s gay gay gay...but I wouldn’t say anything publicly against my employer.
I disagree. One serves to pleasure God.
To serve God. The idea is to keep living rather than being fed to the lions. Jesus died for your sins. Some times a person needs to keep quiet in order to serve God. Like keep your day job. Serve God during your free time.
Or get fired and hire a lawyer and maybe get a new job.
The Homosexual Agenda can only advance at gunpoint.
That's nuts! The early Christian martyrs choose death by lions rather than apostatizing.
Are the management sodomites truly interested in childrens entertainment, or do they really just desire to be entertained by children?
A lot of the sentences didn’t make sense, e.g.
“Capital Kids Parties owner Madlin Sims may have violated discrimination laws in firing an 18-year-old because Sims said her former employees view amounted to hate speech, The Guardian reported.”
Sue these Satanists into the Stone Age.
She didn't say anything against her employer. She disagreed with a belief of her employer. That's very different. If she'd said, "This company sucks. My boss is a bleeping bleep bleeper!" then yeah, she asked to be fired. However, unless she was presented with a Table of Accepted Opinions when she was hired, then she had every reason to believe that only her work mattered, not her private opinions.
It's exactly an opinion, you idiot.
I wonder when “conservatives” are going to stop saying, “I don’t care what homosexuals do in private, but ...”. All there is, is BUT ...!
I heard somewhere that *Anything you say before “but” doesn’t mean anything.*
Yes, like, “I believe in free speech, but ...,” or “I didn’t exactly hit Frank with a brick, but ...”
Although, on reflection, in this case it’s more like the opposite: “I don’t care what homosexuals do in private, AND I don’t really care that all our Constitutional rights are being abrogated to make them happy.” So in this case, it’s what comes after the “but.”
I'm not making this up you know.
Jesus cannot come back soon enough.
The more I read, the more I find myself hoping those predicting *the end of the world* on Sat are right.
How did she speak of her employer? Is her employer running the vote? It’s about a public referendum. So, she got fired for nothing related to her job.
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