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Wait, Joel Osteen. Something Isn’t Adding Up
The Root ^ | 8/30/2017

Posted on 08/30/2017 12:48:52 PM PDT by Gamecock

On Sunday, as Hurricane Harvey began to crush parts of Texas, Joel Osteen, pastor of Houston megachurch Lakewood, tweeted that his church was “inaccessible due to severe flooding,” and then let his Twitter followers know that they could go to an area shelter should they need help.

Followers who were near the church then took video and photos of the “severe flooding” to show that the roads and entrance to the church were actually accessible. Those on Twitter then began bashing the pastor, who quickly blocked those on social media who called him out.

Lakewood church staff began posting photos of their own, showing that parts of the parking area were, in fact, flooded. Shortly after that, the narrative started to shift. The news became that the church had always been willing to help, but church officials were more comfortable with the facility being used as a supply station rather than a shelter. They would, however, allow the church to become an emergency shelter if all of the area shelters were filled.

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1 posted on 08/30/2017 12:48:52 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 08/30/2017 12:50:26 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

I get all my news from Minister Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. /sarc


3 posted on 08/30/2017 12:50:51 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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In the article he says that the city didn’t ask for him to open up for displaced persons.

He sure is all over the place with his answers.


4 posted on 08/30/2017 12:51:27 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Give it a rest........


5 posted on 08/30/2017 12:51:52 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Gamecock

On the contrary, things add up quite nicely for Joel Osteen.

6 posted on 08/30/2017 12:55:12 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Finalapproach29er

They got well flooded, per the video on FNC. And are working with officials to receive flooding victims.


7 posted on 08/30/2017 12:55:55 PM PDT by citizen (The only thing House & Senate Republicans seem united on is killing @realDonaldTrump #CantorThemAll!)
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To: Gamecock

The place flooded when it was the Compaq Center and the Rockets played there. It probably flooded from underneath. Those pictures are fodder for the Osteen haters, but they prove nothing.

He had offered the second floor, which was not flooded, as shelter, but was told it wasn’t needed — especially since it doesn’t have showers. However, they were using it as a distribution center.

When the shelters filled up and Lakewood was needed, it was used as shelter.

Which will only make the Osteen haters hate him even more.


8 posted on 08/30/2017 12:59:48 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Gamecock

I knew his Dad, John Osteen real well...

John would have been asking from the first day what he could do for people...he would have thrown open the doors and invited whomever would to come in...

Josh is not his Dad...


9 posted on 08/30/2017 1:01:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Gamecock

> They would, however, allow the church to become an emergency shelter if all of the area shelters were filled. <

Well, that’s mighty nice of them. Sort of like a lifeguard saying “Give me a holler, but only if all the other lifeguards are busy.”


10 posted on 08/30/2017 1:01:39 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I had no idea where this came from. It did provide a good wrap up of what other sources are saying.

Soooo, I guess the broken clock thing is in effect.


11 posted on 08/30/2017 1:06:01 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Finalapproach29er

No thank you.


12 posted on 08/30/2017 1:06:37 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

He is just a pauper compared to our elected officials. To bad these detractors are not helping out instead of tearing down.


13 posted on 08/30/2017 1:12:45 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gamecock

Sure seems to be a lot of class envy on the FR these days.


14 posted on 08/30/2017 1:12:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL - F*** A Bunch Of Liberals)
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To: Gamecock

It doesn’t add up because Osteen was told there would be no ‘maff’ in pastoring.


15 posted on 08/30/2017 1:13:46 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Gamecock

Joel Osteen’s thinking “if you give a man a fish he eats for a day. Lock your megachurch during a huge storm, teach a man how to be a fish.”


16 posted on 08/30/2017 1:14:28 PM PDT by slimjim12
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To: Gamecock

I’m no fan of his. But also don’t understand all the Osteen bashing. Is he obligated to turn his place into another Superdome, and incur lots of damage, just to make his critics happy???


17 posted on 08/30/2017 1:18:18 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Seruzawa
Sure seems to be a lot of class envy on the FR these days.

If they guy pulling up in the most expensive car in the church parking lot is the pastor, you're in the wrong church.

If the largest, most expensive home in the congregation belongs to the pastor, you're in the wrong church.

If you're pastor owns outright a $20 million dollar airplane, you're in the wrong church.

If your pastor collects Ferraris, you're in the wrong church.

If your pastor and his wife spend more than you earn in a year on cosmetic dentistry, botox, and plastic surgery, you're in the wrong church.

18 posted on 08/30/2017 1:18:47 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: slimjim12
> Joel Osteen’s thinking “if you give a man a fish he eats for a day. Lock your megachurch during a huge storm, teach a man how to be a fish.” <

That might be a fair comment. Might not. Regardless, I'm awarding you the coveted:


19 posted on 08/30/2017 1:20:47 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Gamecock

I’m no fan of Osteen, but this whole story is ridiculous, like fake news.

His church was flooded, and pretty much unusable as a ‘shelter’ — there were thousands of really nice houses around which would have made much better shelters than some mega-church where half the bathrooms were under water and they had no sleeping facilities.

So they were storing stuff for supplies, offering help, and telling people how to find help, and offered the facility as damaged as it was to the emergency ops if they wanted to use it.

So, ask yourself, of all the churches, civic buildings, schools, lecture halls, and other facilities, why is this ONE facility hte one that is all over facebook being attacked for not being a shelter?

Clearly, it’s a combination of those who don’t like Osteen, and those who don’t like religion at all.

Meanwhile, the Houston Methodist Training Center wasn’t opened as a shelter. In fact, the list of shelters is pretty small. And doesn’t include the Mayor’s house.


20 posted on 08/30/2017 1:23:19 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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