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Vatican reportedly working on “Ecumenical Rite of Mass” for joint worship with Protestants
Veritas Vincint: "The Truth Shall Prevail" ^ | June 20, 2017 | Paul Simeon / John Supplers

Posted on 06/23/2017 9:12:09 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide
a new kind of “mass” that is acceptable to Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans.

Well, if there's going to be an apostate end times one world religion, the pope wants to be right on top of it.

He also said that the commission is allegedly studying the problem of the Creed. Protestant churches prefer to pray the Apostles’ Creed, although they do recognize the Nicene Creed. The Catholic Church alternates between them. So not even this point should be a major problem.

Nicene Creed is not a problem. It is true that I hear the Apostles' Creed much more, but we do sometimes say the Nicene.

According to Tosatti, the central issue lies in the Eucharist, since the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist is profoundly different from that of the Lutherans or of other Protestant denominations. Catholics believe in Transubstantiation and the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, while Protestants believe that it is merely a memorial

Lutherans would certainly object to that characterization. The Reformed Churches should.

Enjoy your Pope, by the way.

61 posted on 06/23/2017 4:09:26 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

How do you feel about Assisi I?


62 posted on 06/23/2017 4:10:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
First, I did not miss the 's' in 'heretics' ---- I typed it and I noticed it.

Did you really "type" it? Or did you cut and paste it? Let's be honest.

63 posted on 06/23/2017 4:13:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What about a Catholic praying and worshiping God at the bedside of a dying veteran at the VA hospital, for instance?

What about? I would pray for his/her conversion to the One, True Faith before his/her expiration. That's the Catholic "thing" to do.

64 posted on 06/23/2017 4:18:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Can’t we all just get along?


65 posted on 06/23/2017 4:20:47 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Or a Protestant praying at the bedside of a dying Catholic vet?

If I was the vet, I'd ask for a Catholic priest.

66 posted on 06/23/2017 4:35:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Can’t we all just get along?

Heck. The current pope can't even get along with his own cardinals. He hides from them now.

67 posted on 06/23/2017 5:43:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I typed it. Sheesh. I can’t cut and paste on my Kindle.


68 posted on 06/23/2017 5:52:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (He that falls into sin, is a man; he that grieves it, is a saint; he that boasts of it, is a devil.)
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You can type, but not cut and paste?

Interesting.


69 posted on 06/23/2017 5:59:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
Without a doubt. Yes.

Yes; there are a number of Catholic things to do. There are the Seven Penitential Psalms. There is the Rosary. There are short aspirations: "Trust the Lord: He is trustworthy. Trust Him with all your heart." There are prescribed prayers for the dying, in fact, commending the soul to Divine Mercy.

All this is done in the realization that the man (it's always been a man) may not be conscious of what you're saying: his cognitive powers are usually much impaired. That's why touch (holding his hand, for instance) is so important.

And sometimes I sing.

Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All,
How can I love Thee as I ought?

70 posted on 06/23/2017 6:00:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Keep me close to You forever: I commend to You my spirit.")
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To: ebb tide

The Catholic vets usually do ask for a priest at the end, if they are conscious.


71 posted on 06/23/2017 6:00:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Keep me close to You forever: I commend to You my spirit.")
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You can italicize text on your Kindle, yet you cannot cut and paste?

Very interesting.


72 posted on 06/23/2017 6:01:47 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sorry meant to post to you.


73 posted on 06/23/2017 6:03:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
Yes. To italicize, all I have to do is type i and /i inside the usual html brackets.

You probably know that, right?

74 posted on 06/23/2017 6:07:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Keep me close to You forever: I commend to You my spirit.")
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To: ebb tide

Post what to me?


75 posted on 06/23/2017 6:08:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Keep me close to You forever: I commend to You my spirit.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

P.S. I have a Kindle. I can cut an paste from it; but I can’t type new text.


76 posted on 06/23/2017 6:08:50 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The saved do not have their sins counted against them.

They have been declared judicially pardoned.

Now, EVERY believer is going to have some sin in their lives that it going to need to be accounted for.

NOBODY is perfect and there is no way that anyone can reach the level of perfection that God requires.

So everyone is going to have something they haven’t forgiven someone for. Or something they haven’t asked for forgiveness for.

So if you make salvation dependent on that, rather than faith in Jesus, then no, nobody is going to make it to heaven.

Besides, people often deal with forgiving others after they get saved, when they have the Spirit granted ability to do hat.

By requiring us to forgive before we get saved, you are asking an unsaved person to do something that they most likely are not capable of doing in the first place.

You might as well ask a baby to climb Mt Everest.


77 posted on 06/23/2017 6:14:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

No, I am not saying Jesus is not God.

I am saying what Scripture says. You know,k the stuff you guys claim YOUR church wrote in the first place.

Mary is *mother of Jesus* according to Scripture.

Saying *mother of God* means something entirely different.

Because the issue with the title isn’t about who Jesus is, although Catholics continually make it and try to make it about that.

The issue is about who the title says Mary is.


78 posted on 06/23/2017 6:17:04 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I have a Kindle Paperwhite, so I don’t not what you’re talking about.

However, I see on a Kindle Fire, that one can “cut and paste”.

What version Kindle is yours?


79 posted on 06/23/2017 6:17:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I’m Anglican and I believe He is truly present in the Eucharist. We believe in The Real Presence.


80 posted on 06/23/2017 6:22:35 PM PDT by kalee
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