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Some saints ‘were probably gay’: Pro-gay Vatican advisor [Catholic Caucus]
LifeSite News ^ | May 9, 2017 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 05/10/2017 12:27:06 PM PDT by ebb tide

Faithful Catholics may be in for a “surprise” when they “get to heaven to be greeted by LGBT men and women,” said a controversial Catholic priest who was appointed by Pope Francis last month to the Vatican’s communications office.

Jesuit priest Fr. James Martin, editor-at-large of the Jesuit-run America magazine, made the comment on his Facebook page May 5 after posting a link to a pro-homosexual event put on by New Ways Ministry and calling it “another sign of welcome and building bridges.”

When one Facebook commenter responded that “any canonized Saints would not be impressed” by the infiltration of homosexuality within the Catholic Church, Martin replied that some of the saints are “probably gay.”​

But Catholic saint and doctor of the Church St. Peter Damian called homosexuality a “vice” that “opens up hell and closes the door of paradise.”

“This vice [of same-sex activity] is the death of bodies, the destruction of souls, pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the intellect, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, introduces the diabolical inciter of lust, throws into confusion, and removes the truth completely from the deceived mind,” he wrote in his 11th century Book of Gomorrah. 

“It prepares snares for the one who walks, and for him who falls into the pit, it obstructs the escape. It opens up hell and closes the door of paradise,” he added. 

The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered” since they are “contrary to the natural law” and they “close the sexual act to the gift of life.” 

But, not only this: The Church also teaches that same-sex attraction is itself “objectively disordered” since God created sexual attraction to be between a male and female for the sake of procreation. 

In this way, there is no such reality as a “homosexual person,” but only a person who struggles with the “disorder” of being attracted to the same sex. The Church teaches that everybody, including those with a disordered sexuality — often expressing itself in lust, masturbation, fornication, pornography, homosexuality — are called to chastity. That is, to the moral virtue of a rightly ordered sexuality integrated within the person. 

The Christian faith holds that the homosexual act, along with murdering the innocent, depriving a laborer of his wages, and oppressing the poor, is one of the four sins that cries to heaven for justice. Those who commit grave sin can only enter heaven if they let go of their sinful ways, asking God for forgiveness and mercy. Jesus teaches that it is the “pure of heart” who will see God. 

Martin recently published a book in which he outlines ways he thinks the Catholic Church should be building bridges of acceptance towards practicing homosexuals. 

Last year he accepted an award from the pro-homosexual New Ways Ministry. During his acceptance speech, he said that the Church should embrace homosexuality’s "special gifts" and "lay to rest" language about the “objectively disordered” nature of homosexual inclinations and acts.

He has used his Twitter platform to support transgendered issues, such as boys using the girls' bathroom and vice versa and has released videos on Youtube that advocate for the normalization of homosexuality in the Catholic Church.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; francishomos; homos; martin
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1 posted on 05/10/2017 12:27:06 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Undoubtedly, they’ll soon be suggesting its St. Sebastian - the favorite saint of masochistic gay men.


2 posted on 05/10/2017 12:30:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ebb tide

This so-called expert of the Bible obviously hasn’t read it.


3 posted on 05/10/2017 12:30:43 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.)
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To: ebb tide

Face palm.


4 posted on 05/10/2017 12:32:16 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: ebb tide

To destroy your culture you first have to destroy their herdoes, their history.

same with Abe Lincoln:

he was so poor he had once share a bed with some other dude so the left gayed him up good and quick.


5 posted on 05/10/2017 12:32:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ebb tide

If they were homosexual but celibate, no harm, no foul. Remember, all saints were also sinners. Along with us non-saints.


7 posted on 05/10/2017 12:34:41 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ebb tide

Wow. The Catholic church is in a deep state of apostasy.


8 posted on 05/10/2017 12:35:39 PM PDT by Obadiah (Global warming caused Hillary to lose the election.)
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To: ebb tide

A couple of days ago, I went to Fr. Martin’s FB page and posted a straightforward question: “What exactly are your long-term goals for gay Catholics? Since the Church is never going to let men marry men or women marry women, aren’t you leading these people on?” Martin didn’t answer my question, although he didn’t delete it, either, which I’ll give him points for. (Interestingly, a former Catholic, who is a man who now “married” to a man, “liked” my comment. I guess there are a few active homosexuals who see through Fr. Martin’s pandering.)


9 posted on 05/10/2017 12:36:24 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis - what happens when Vatican City’s village idiot becomes Pope.


10 posted on 05/10/2017 12:39:57 PM PDT by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: ebb tide

Jesuit are the greatest enemy of Catholics.


12 posted on 05/10/2017 12:49:16 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: gaijin

Lincoln’s predilection for sleeping with men continued during his residence in the White House.

He may have picked up the practice when he was poor but he never gave up on it.


13 posted on 05/10/2017 12:50:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

Were some of the saint probably fornicators?

Or thieves?

Or murderers?


14 posted on 05/10/2017 12:51:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: JimRed

How in the heck would James Martin or any other homosexual activist know who was celibate?


15 posted on 05/10/2017 12:54:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: KSCITYBOY

Time for the second reformation? Our Savior was a Jew. He did not intend to start a Christian church. His goal was to fulfill His promise and lead the flock along the proper path. But, in the eyes of Jewish church, he could not in a religious sense remain a Jew. Martin Luther was a Catholic. He did not intend to start a Lutheran church. He only sought to correct the Biblical errors within his own church. But in the eyes of the Catholic church, he could not in a religious sense remain a Catholic. If Jesus could not remain a Jew, and Martin Luther could not remain a Catholic, then perhaps the answer to your question may be "one does not"? It is the same question in a religious context that we struggle with in a political context as we question whether the GOP can be saved, or should a new party emerge. The point is, we can't stop them from doubling-down on stupid, they can't stop us from exodus, we'll do what we feel is right whether others like it or not, and we'll be judged for our action, or lack of action, accordingly.


16 posted on 05/10/2017 1:01:17 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ebb tide

The lies go deep with these people. Will they be having pro-adulterer, pro-murder and pro-stealing events soon as well?
Will they wear I break all 10 commandments tshirts at said events? If you don’t believe in God and don’t read the bible, you’re in the wrong job.


17 posted on 05/10/2017 1:02:05 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: JimRed
If they were homosexual but celibate, no harm, no foul. Remember, all saints were also sinners. Along with us non-saints.

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." - 2 Cor 5:17

I don't buy the notion that Christ can only change the fallen nature of some sinners but not homosexuals or alcoholics. Jesus said if you lust in your heart, you're an adulterer. If you hate your brother, you're a murderer. If you're a homosexual in your heart - you're a homosexual.

Jesus is in the heart changing business. A person with homosexual behavior or lusts can be transformed into the saved person God made them to be - if he/she cooperates and allows Christ to work in their heart. We seem to think that our God is limited in who He can save and deliver - He's not!

18 posted on 05/10/2017 1:08:11 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ebb tide

Lord, please rid our Church of these perverts. So sick of it.


19 posted on 05/10/2017 1:16:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: so_real

I will not leave my Church. These perverts can leave.


20 posted on 05/10/2017 1:19:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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