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There Will Be No Religious Left
Virtue Online ^ | 4-25-17 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 04/30/2017 4:18:16 PM PDT by ReformationFan

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1 posted on 04/30/2017 4:18:16 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: zot

Interesting argument. Ping.


2 posted on 04/30/2017 4:21:41 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: ReformationFan

I think he is wrong as fast as Islam is growing in the left.


3 posted on 04/30/2017 4:21:57 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: ReformationFan

There will always be fake religious/religious left around.

Gotta fill the void with something if you dont have God. Its either some kind of ism or some false religion.


4 posted on 04/30/2017 4:24:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ReformationFan

There will be no Christian Left. The Democrat Chairman says there’s “no place in the party” for pro-lifers. That’s a rather large chunk of the Christians gone right there.

It’s just a matter of time until they say there is no place for Christians in their party.


5 posted on 04/30/2017 4:31:41 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: ReformationFan

There is no such thing as a religious left. Either you believe in God or you don’t.


6 posted on 04/30/2017 4:36:45 PM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: seawolf101

[There is no such thing as a religious left. Either you believe in God or you don’t.]

Sheep and the goats. There will be no in between.


7 posted on 04/30/2017 4:38:44 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. Yes, this is an interesting argument. It does seem that the liberal churches are declining in membership.


8 posted on 04/30/2017 4:42:17 PM PDT by zot
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To: ReformationFan

Weak-kneed Christian churches ought to quit christening ceremonies for the secular, refuse marriage in the church to those who do not belong to the church, and cease the burials of those who do not confess faith in Jesus.

Parents and grandparents who have non-religious children and grandchildren should not expect the church to perform the rites of the church for those who have no concept of the Christian life.


9 posted on 04/30/2017 4:49:14 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: seawolf101

LOL. That was exactly my thought too - an oxymoron. Then again, there’s a few Christian denominations that promote false doctrines. I don’t really see the point of making some sacrifices and being found lukewarm on Judgment Day.


10 posted on 04/30/2017 5:02:21 PM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: ReformationFan

I disagree. I think that Christianity easily lends itself to an emphasis on fighting oppression which can become a drive that excludes other considerations (including logic).

It doesn’t surprise me that Rod Dreher imagines that “soon” all religious people will be like him - or like he would like to perceive himself, but the 2,000-year history of Christianity is one in which similar errors - hyper-focusing on one aspect to the exclusion of others - arise again and again.


11 posted on 04/30/2017 5:02:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? CRISTO! Y a su Nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: ReformationFan

“In part, the liberal mass migration away from religion was a reaction to the rise of the Christian right.”

NICE TRY!!!

The ‘Christian right’ only got started as a REACTION to the Left basically stealing their children though schools, TV, etc. The last thing that people of faith wanted to do was get involved in the dirty world of politics - but they correctly felt that they had no choice.

So it was the OTHER WAY - the Left went after our children, and therefore we did what we could to protect them (although, sadly, not well enough in most cases).


12 posted on 04/30/2017 5:08:05 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: SaxxonWoods

Don’t forget, in 2012 the inclusion of God in the democrat party platform was booed.


13 posted on 04/30/2017 5:14:14 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Lock her up!)
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To: ReformationFan

There is nothing new under the sun. —Ecclesiastes

Of course there is and always will be a religious left. Thousands of years ago the Israelite battled both physically and spiritually against the Canaanites who sacrificed their children to Moloch. Abortion has religious roots.

The current environmental movement elevates the creation above the creature and flatly denies that God commanded man (both male and female) to subdue the earth. As soon as the AGW are faced with the fact that the sun has more to do with climate variation than CO2, I expect them to start worshiping the sun god. It’s what they do.


14 posted on 04/30/2017 5:32:52 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: mountainlion

Islam is not a religion. It is the world’s largest cult.


15 posted on 04/30/2017 5:43:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: mountainlion

I think he is wrong as fast as Islam is growing in the left.

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Orthodox Islam is emphatically not Leftist though (at least not in any meaningful secular sense). The U.S.S.R. found out the hard way that Islam might adopt SOME of the collectivist policies of socialism, but the instant you brought the purely materialistic indoctrination up as justification for a socialist society...well...that just meant its time to dust off the ol’ AK-47 and do a little jihad.


16 posted on 04/30/2017 5:56:46 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Islam is not a religion. It is the world’s largest cult.

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Way too dismissive. You may hate Islam, but it is far more influential in the world than the Branch Davidians.


17 posted on 04/30/2017 5:59:51 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: ReformationFan
This class is very close, and they are all my close friends.

Hmmm.

18 posted on 04/30/2017 6:48:21 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: Secret Agent Man

“There will always be fake religious/religious left around.
Gotta fill the void with something if you dont have God. Its either some kind of ism or some false religion.”

i believe that climate change has become the acceptable, promoted and taught secular substitute for traditional religious beliefs and practices.


19 posted on 04/30/2017 7:10:36 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: Bishop_Malachi

You are probably right.

But to me it sure seems more cult than religion.


20 posted on 04/30/2017 9:02:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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