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The Moscow Patriarchate Believes Lenin's Burial is Untimely
Interfax ^ | 3/17/17

Posted on 03/20/2017 5:37:57 PM PDT by marshmallow

Moscow, March 17, Interfax - Representative of the Moscow Patriarchate calls extremely untimely the idea to bury Lenin's body and urges to introduce a moratorium on a war against political symbols in Russia.

"We understand that his presence on Red Square has nothing to do with Christian traditions. But we can raise a question about reburial only when a campaign on decommunization and desovietization is stopped in the post-Soviet territory. And afterwards, when we pose this question, we should base only on religious, not political grounds," first deputy chairman of the Synodal Department for Church, Society and Media relations, PhD Alexander Shchipkov writes in his article posted in Russian by Interfax-Religion.

Earlier, the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia on occasion of the hundredth anniversary of the revolution urged to liberate cities and towns from monuments to Lenin and to rid the center of Moscow of his body. According to the ROCOR, liberation of Red Square of "the remains of the main persecutor and executioner of the 20th century and the destruction of monuments to him" will become a symbol of "reconciliation of Russian people with the Lord."

The Moscow Patriarchate does not share such an opinion. "We see that our close neighbors use the theme of decommunization for the sake of derussification. Should we bring grist to this ideological mill? Certainly, no," Shchipkov writes.

He believes it is necessary to accept "a temporal moratorium on any war against political symbols in Russia, no matter what origin they have."

"It certainly does not mean that we should not return original Russian names to streets and cities. It should be done, but only out of historical, not political grounds. We should not get involved in political campaigns connected with political symbols. It is extremely destructive affair," the church official said.

For the same reason he believes it untimely to raise a question on reburial of Lenin's body "on clearly political motives."

According to the synodal department official, it is necessary to understand that both sides are responsible for fratricidal civil war, as a part of Russian people supported each of the sides.

"Our task is to overcome the schism, to unite people. We will not be able to achieve this aim recognizing that only one side of the civil war was right. It is possible to finish this war in people's hearts and minds only when we stop searching for the winners and will understand that the both sides historically lost the battle," Shchipkov stressed.


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1 posted on 03/20/2017 5:37:57 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Lenin has to go, to make room for Vladimir, some 20 years out.


2 posted on 03/20/2017 5:44:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marshmallow

Lenin was an anti-God fanatic who ordered the murder of maybe half a million people.The only reason he didn’t order more, was that he himself died.

He was nearly worshipped thereafter as a god himself. (’Lenin lived, Lenin lives, and Lenin shall live!’)

Get rid of the false idol.


3 posted on 03/20/2017 5:46:21 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: marshmallow

This doesn’t make any sense. What’s wrong with this guy?


4 posted on 03/20/2017 6:02:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marshmallow

That’s a bunch of BS gibberish.


5 posted on 03/20/2017 6:02:31 PM PDT by caver (Trump: Home of the Winner)
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To: marshmallow

Dear Russia: Keep your communist and socialist ideologies. Please keep sending the vodka and surplus firearms.

Sincerely,

CC


6 posted on 03/20/2017 6:03:10 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: marshmallow

He’s right, they shouldn’t bury it. They should drag it out in the middle of Red Square and *burn* it.


7 posted on 03/20/2017 6:04:50 PM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: marshmallow

Have they no wood chippers in Russia?


8 posted on 03/20/2017 6:05:03 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cicero
"This doesn’t make any sense. What’s wrong with this guy?"

It seems to me what he's saying is that, in their zeal to rid Russia of all vestiges of it's Communist legacy, those in the Orthodox Church outside Russia have too much of an anti-Russian tone to them and that maybe they better wait until it can be done out of purely religious motives, not nationalistic ones.

I'm not agreeing with one side or the other, that just seems to me what's going on here.

9 posted on 03/20/2017 6:20:29 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: marshmallow

This makes no sense to me at all. It’s as if the ROC has lost its mind.


10 posted on 03/20/2017 6:25:44 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

State Church is as State Church does.


11 posted on 03/20/2017 6:27:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

“State Church is as State Church does”

-Forresti Gumpovich

CC


12 posted on 03/20/2017 6:49:01 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: marshmallow

I wonder how Russia is planning to commemorate the 100-year anniversary of The Bolshevik Revolution.


13 posted on 03/20/2017 6:53:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow
Representative of the Moscow Patriarchate calls extremely untimely the idea to bury Lenin's body

I agree. They should have buried Lenin 54 years before his death...

14 posted on 03/21/2017 5:10:12 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: marshmallow

So the old KGB-run Moscow Patriarchate wants to keep Lenin’s idol. No surprise there.


15 posted on 03/21/2017 8:33:57 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: Cicero
I understand him to mean that they want to bury Lenin with as little civil upheaval as possible and they believe that there is not yet a broad consensus within Russian society for this course of action.

IOW, they're waiting for more of the old school communists to depart this earthly existence.

16 posted on 03/21/2017 1:10:50 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“Untimely”?

Please... it’s never the wrong time to bury a Communist.

In particular, Lenin!


17 posted on 03/21/2017 1:20:38 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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