Posted on 03/08/2017 12:27:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
You want vocations to increase? Run the false prophet devil’s out of the Church, starting with him.
Problem solved.
i guess that means men married to each other, too
a little more specifics...married to who (whom ?)
They might not have the shortage, in priests or congregations, if they get back to right and wrong and forget all the socialist, p.c. crap.
Why not?
Most MARRIED men I know have more religious beliefs than unmarred
This has to be the first pronouncement (my word) that I’ve heard from this Pope that makes sense.There are already some married priests...Roman Catholic priests who have pledged fidelity to Rome...in most Western countries (Britain,Ireland,US,Canada,etc).
Same sex marriage too, or else it’s discrimination!
Clerical celibacy was imposed by human beings over 1,000 years after the Birth of Christ. It is not part of the Ten Commandments, nor part of Christ’s teachings, and should have ABSOLUTELY no indictment on whether Christ is our Savior or who gets into Heaven.
The Eastern Catholic churches already have married priests and there are also the former Anglicans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_ordinariate
BTTT!
What, no polygamists? I guess this Pope is holding the line after all.
Soon Catholicism will not have ANY standards of behavior
Jesuit Historian, George T. Dennis SJ of Catholic University of America says: “There is simply no clear evidence of a general tradition or practice, much less of an obligation, of priestly celibacy-continence before the beginning of the fourth century.” (SEE HIS WORK: The Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy, Theological Studies, 52:4 (1991:Dec.) p.738 )
Another Jesuit Priest Peter Fink SJ agrees, saying that underlying premises used in the book, Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy, “would not stand up so comfortably to historical scrutiny”. Dennis says this book provides no evidence that celibacy had apostolic origins.
Of course one can always argue that they, like Francis are all liberal Jesuits...
But then, another catholic theologian, Monsignor Philippe Delhaye wrote:
“During the first three or four centuries, no law was promulgated prohibiting clerical marriage. Celibacy was a matter of choice for bishops, priests, and deacons. ... The apostolic constitutions (c. 400) excommunicated a priest or bishop who left his wife ‘under pretense of piety’ (Sacrorum Conciliorum nova et amplissima collectio 1:51) — SEE “Celibacy, Clerical, History of” in New Catholic Encyclopedia, vol 3, Catholic University of America: Washington, D.C. 1967 p.370
Are you saying that you do not believe in Christ?
And the choices he made for apostles?
Most of them single and celibate!!
Have one in the diocese I belong to. He is a Very good priest, married with 4 kids. He is currently president of the local Catholic High School.
Always found it interesting where unmarried men give marital advice to a couple (man and woman) planning on marriage and marriage counseling after.
I wonder if that's what the German bishops mean by "irregular unions"?
How many times does this myth have to be repudiated? Clerical celibacy (or more properly clerical continence) was the discipline in the West from the earliest times. Those reference to the so-called 10th century innovation were just the Western church restating and enforcing what was already the discipline for centuries.
Married priests is good. The Greek orthodox priests can marry. They do not have the problems of molestation we have in the church of Rome.
Even if Fr. Dennis’ premise is accepted, the beginning of the 4th century is hardly 1000 years after Christ. The truth is that what is missing from those early years is prove of formal legislation. But it would be absurd to think that such latter legislation could have imposed such a drastic change without causing a major controversy and resistance, of which there is no evidence. The latter legislation could only have been peacefully received if it had reflected what was already the accepted practice.
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