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[Female] Lutheran Bishop Thinks Pope Bergoglio is a Hidden Protestant
kath.net via Eponymous Flower ^ | February 6, 2107 | Kath.net

Posted on 02/06/2017 7:56:23 AM PST by ebb tide

Bizarre message from Protestantism by the Protestant bishop of Hamburg

(kath.net) For Hamburg's evangelical bishop, Kirsten Fehr, Pope Francis is a "hidden Protestant". Fehrs ventured this at the "Long Night of World Religions" at the Hamburg Thalia Theater, as evangelisch.de reports.

"He seems to me a hidden Protestant." The reason for this bold statement is evidently the letter "Amoris laetitia" and the interpretation of some bishops who believe that remarried divorced Catholics now only have to appeal to their consciences to receive the Holy Eucharist.


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Lutheran Bishop Thinks Pope Bergoglio is a Hidden Protestant

"Hidden"? I'd would say "open".

1 posted on 02/06/2017 7:56:23 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Would that be worse than being an open Socialist?


2 posted on 02/06/2017 7:58:14 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals w.ould have no standtairds at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ebb tide

Not “Protestant” but “liberal”.


3 posted on 02/06/2017 8:03:09 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide
Exactamundo! How exactly is Pope Francis’s Protestantism “hidden”?
4 posted on 02/06/2017 8:04:25 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Rurudyne
Both.

Credo.

5 posted on 02/06/2017 8:05:26 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

He’s a Marxist wrecking ball.


6 posted on 02/06/2017 8:11:49 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: ebb tide

From what I have seen, I suspect he is not even Christian, let alone if he is Roman Catholic or Protestant.

His “Christianity” seems a lot like the former president’s.


7 posted on 02/06/2017 8:13:43 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Yup


8 posted on 02/06/2017 8:21:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

Revelation Chapter 12:
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1193). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

Previous Bible commentators have taken this as a symbolic vision about Israel (Mary) giving birth to Jesus, and marking the start of the 3 1/2 year Great Tribulation.
However, since “knowledge had increased”, we can use star charting programs such as Stellarium to see that this could be a literal “great sign” in heaven.

The constellation “Virgo”, the Virgin, has always been identified with Mary the Mother of Jesus. The nine stars of Leo, the Lion (of Judah), form a “garland” above her head.
Jupiter has always been identified as the “King” star. It is striped (by His stripes we are healed) and has a large, red spot (they pierced His side).

Here is the sequence of events regarding the Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Virgo, Leo, Mercury, Mars and Venus

Mon, 21 November 2016 = 20th of Cheshvan, 5777
Jupiter enters Virgo crossing line from Spica to Porrima

Sat, 28 January 2017 = 1st of Sh’vat, 5777
Jupiter retrograde motion begins inside Virgo. “Gestation” begins??

-—— YOU ARE HERE!! -——

Sat, 10 June 2017 = 16th of Sivan, 5777
Jupiter prograde motion resumes inside Virgo

Thu, 17 August 2017 = 25th of Av, 5777
Total Solar eclipse across America (from Portland to Charleston)

Sun, 10 September 2017 = 19th of Elul, 5777
Jupiter crosses Heze — Spica line. Virgin gives birth? Conjunction Regulus and Mercury

Wed, 20 September 2017 = 29th of Elul, 5777
New Moon, Venus — Regulus conjunction - Aligns with Great Pyramid at Giza

Sun, 24 September 2017 = 4th of Tishrei, 5778
Sun at Virgo’s shoulders (clothed), the Moon is at her feet, Mercury, Mars, Venus are added to Leo’s nine stars as Virgo’s 12-star ‘garland’

The great sign in the heaven is complete. This formation last happened in the about 5932 years ago, with Saturn in place of Mercury, and won’t happen again for at least another 2000 years.

Luke 21
25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;
26 “men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 “Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 “Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1023). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

See the image at: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_1y_hLqVXf4/maxresdefault.jpg

Graphic says 23 September 2017, as it depends on where you say Virgo’s feet are. Besides, no one knows the day or the hour.

I don’t know for sure if Daniel’s 70th week has started. Sir Issac Newton’s calculation, which required Israel to be back in the land with control of Jerusalem (June 1967) worked out to September 2015. We don’t know if the Anti-Christ confirmed a seven year treaty back then, but it is possible. The colors of the Four Horsemen are White, Red, Black, and, while it is translated as “Pale”, the Greek can be translated as “Green”. These are the colors of the Islamic Nations that are going up against Israel.

The Revelation 12:1-2 Great Sign in the Heavens is September 23-24, 2017, so that would be two years into the Seventieth Week. The Revelation 12:3-4 sign is no where to be seen. However, there are reports of perturbations in the Cassini spacecraft orbit around Saturn, so the “great, fiery red dragon, may be out there as a brown dwarf, which would explain why the Vatican is operating an infrared telescope, called Project Lucifer, here in Arizona.

While there are folks who think that the “called out ones”, usually called the Church, will escape the entire Seventh Week, as I read it we are only offered escape from the final 3 1/2 years if we are counted as worthy, or just before the Anit-Christ is finally revealed, which ever comes first.

So we could very well be in the first half of the Tribulation, or Time of Jacobs Trouble. The thing with Bible Prophecy is that you only really know, for sure, after the event has happened.

So read your Bible and Pray! Do what the Holy Spirit leads you to do in this world, but don’t be too attached to it! Maranatha!

- - - - - - -

Revelation 12
3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth,
to devour her Child as soon as it was born.
5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.
6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1193). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

1. Go to Google Sky: https://www.google.com/sky/
2. Click on Constellations in the bottom button bar.
3. Click on Virgo (last button) in the bottom button bar.
4. Click on “Infrared” button at top right of the main window.
5. Click on the “+” button two times.
6. Observe the rectangular black space with the Green “star” with a kind of red “diadems” under it.

Note: Apparently the thing that Goggle is trying to block has gotten closer and they have not yet change the censoring pixels. Is this “another sign”?

Isaiah 66
5 Hear the word of the LORD, You who tremble at His word: “Your brethren who hated you, Who cast you out for My name’s sake, said, ‘Let the LORD be glorified, That we may see your joy.’ But they shall be ashamed.”
6 The sound of noise from the city! A voice from the temple! The voice of the LORD, Who fully repays His enemies!
7 “Before she was in labor, she gave birth; Before her pain came, She delivered a male child.
8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children.

Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 728). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.


9 posted on 02/06/2017 8:21:42 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ebb tide

Why is she smearing protestants?


10 posted on 02/06/2017 8:37:22 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Why is she smearing protestants?"

Maybe, takes one to know one?

OK, sorry, that was snarky. Still, the lady bishop seems to see Pope Francis' "Protestantism" as a plus, yes?

11 posted on 02/06/2017 8:46:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Inquiring minds want to know.)
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

There is nothing inherently Protestant about tolerating divorce. As for Henry 8 that wasn’t about Protestantism but about an heir and the mistaken belief that women were to blame for daughters. The CoE certainly didn’t suddenly become Presbyterian after all.


12 posted on 02/06/2017 8:55:48 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide

NOT Lutheran FEMALE bishop. True Lutherans do not have women as clergy. So a NOT Lutheran is saying the pope is NOT Catholic. Irony of ironies.


13 posted on 02/06/2017 9:02:24 AM PST by freemama
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To: ebb tide

Protestant...o..k...he’ll never be outed as a Christian unless he repents and accepts Jesus as his Savior.


14 posted on 02/06/2017 9:43:18 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I thank God, Broom Hillary was stopped. Now, moving on, I pray for Trump.)
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To: ebb tide

You’re right. He keeps nothing hidden. One things for certain, he’s despises Catholicism.


15 posted on 02/06/2017 10:43:11 AM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Texas Eagle

A female Lutheran bishop?


16 posted on 02/06/2017 10:44:21 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

It’s a brave new world.


17 posted on 02/06/2017 10:45:21 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals w.ould have no standtairds at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: freemama
True Lutherans do not have women as clergy

Who gets to defined what a "True Lutheran" is?

18 posted on 02/06/2017 10:46:31 AM PST by NorthMountain (AP is fake news)
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To: ebb tide

So, we have an apostate Lutheran seeing common ground with an apostate Catholic and mistaking that common ground as “Protestant” rather than being apostate.

Is this a fair assessment, or do Catholics just really, really enjoy bashing “Protestants?”

I think I know the answer, after over a decade of participation on the FR Religion Forum.

Bash away, bash away, bash away all.

Ppphhhffftt.


19 posted on 02/06/2017 10:47:55 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ebb tide

LOL...you beat me to it.


20 posted on 02/06/2017 12:54:50 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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