Why Israel is the Middle East's Foremost Problem

American Thinker ^ | January 22nd, 2017 | William A. Levinson

[mikefive]

From what I’ve seen and noticed, most muslim countries have a very tribal society. And with a lot of tribal societies, breeding outside the tribe can lead to feuds that last hundreds of years or get your throat cut in a so called “honor” killing. So kissing cousins is rampant throughout the muslim world, with only the loose bindings of islam and totalitarian leadership keeping the savages from killing each other outright. Generational inbreeding will not lead to the sharpest knives in the drawer. Just my 2 cents.

[Lera]

Oh and Esau’s children are NOT Hebrews , they are NOT Jacob’s children .
They are related but they are not Hebrews

[tet68]

Israel is not a problem.
Palestinians are the problem!

[Lera]

[[Anyone that doesn’t keep Torah, and all the feasts, including Hanukkah, is not a believer.

That is what Yeshua and all of his apostles said.

Don’t like it? write your own bible; everyone is doing it.
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There are 613 law if you keep Torah and YOU CAN NOT KEEP THEM ALL . Read your bible . I’m am telling as someone who loves and understands the Feast and what they are a picture of.
BTW you won’t a Christmas tree in my house nor an Easter egg or bunny . Saturdays are also my day off for bible study.
I was bought and paid for by the blood of the Lamb
I know him and I follow him , he corrects me when I am wrong .

In the millenium the whole world will be keeping at least one of those Feast or they won’t have rain if they don’t send represenatives to Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot)and they are going to be surprised too cause Ezekiel’s Temple is going to be open on Saturday not Sunday and for those Feast Days that will a memorial for what he has done for us. The appointed times were given to Israel they were a picture of their Messiah and what he would do for them and one day they will be a rememberance of what he did for them.

(Galatians 5:16) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

(Galatians 5:17) For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

(Galatians 5:18) But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

(Galatians 5:19) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

(Galatians 5:20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

(Galatians 5:21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

(Galatians 5:22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

(Galatians 5:23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

(Galatians 5:24) And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

(Galatians 5:25) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

(Galatians 5:26) Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

(Colossians 2:16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

(Colossians 2:17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

[BlatherNaut]

Things are lining up

For what? The "Samson option"? The Anti-Christ?

[editor-surveyor]

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What you’re doing is repeating all of the lies of churchianity that are going to send every churchian straight to the lake that burns.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Yeshua and every one of his disciples for the first three centuries kept Torah. It its not for you, then neither is eternal life.

With Yeshua writing Torah on the hearts of all of his assembly, there is no difficulty keeping any of it.

Torah is Yehova’s love and righteousness. Without it, you have neither. Just read the letters to the 7 churches; that is the same standard as we are held to.

“If you will not watch, I will come as a thief...”

Do you think he was lying?
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[editor-surveyor]

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She has no clue.
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[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

"For what? The "Samson option"? The Anti-Christ?"

Jesus built the 3rd temple in three days, as we know. When someone builds a 3rd temple out of stone, or enters into an already-built 3rd temple to be enthroned, well, we'll know who he is.

Everybody here saying that Israel isn't the problem isn't looking at the situation in Biblical terms, but merely noticing that Israelis generally tend to be nicer and more civilized than Palestinians. I know Israel (a nation whose founding and existence is predicated on denying the divinity of Christ) has a lot of supporters around here. But like it or not, the modern state of Israel, not Islam, will be the primary force behind the rise of the anti-christ, for the simple reason that Islam isn't true, and was never true. The Israelites had their valid temples in accordance with the OT. Only out of this prior legitimacy can the true anti-christ arise to attempt to claim the legitimacy of Christ's 3rd temple of the Spirit for his 3rd temple of stone.

Prior to 1948, it wasn't really possible for the stage to be set. With Jewish control over Jerusalem renewed for the first time since New Testament times, the way is open. I read an article about how the ceremonial necessities of the temple of Jerusalem -- the breastplate and crown of the high priest, spotless red heifers, etc. -- are even now being gradually pulled together in readiness for sacrifices to resume.

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Or maybe I'm wrong entirely and things will play out in a totally different way. The apostles writing at the time about "the holy place" would be looking at the still standing Temple of Jerusalem at the time, but maybe they were granted a vision of Vatican City and a flab-jowled fellow dressed in white, "in whose hands are iniquities, his right hand holding a beach ball."

Either way, I suggest a solution to the seemingly endless conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. In light of America recently having been made great again --

Make Israel/Palestine Outremer again!

[editor-surveyor]

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Colossians 2:

[16] Let no man but the body of Yeshua therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come

This is why the Colossians received nothing but profuse praise from Paul. They were keeping Torah perfectly, just as all of the apostles were.

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[editor-surveyor]

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The “solution” is coming at Yom Kippur this year.

The jubilee will again send land that belongs to Yehova back into the hands of the nation that he caused to be reestablished in 1948, just as in ‘67.

To fill that added land, people will arrive from all over the world.

Meanwhile work on those “inherited lies” as spoken of by Jeremiah

Jeremiah 16:19

O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

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[Lera]

When you walk in the Spirit he teaches you to obey him and follow him .
You can not keep all 613 laws though BECAUSE you need a temple and sacrifice to do so , sacrifice has already been made.
BTW if you are walking in the Spirit you have peace in your life (real shalom ) if your are trying to earn your own way you won’t have that peace. Torah is God’s heart for people but it’s impossible to keep it and that’s why they needed a constant sacrifice to show them that they couldn’t keep it.
Go read it again and grace is no excuse to sin.
Did you forget about Peter’s vision of the animals ?

[editor-surveyor]

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You keep calling Yeshua a liar.

All of his assembly kept Torah for the first 3 centuries AD

Its the churchians that can’t seem to do anything he asked us to do.
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[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Did you forget about Peter’s vision of the animals ?” <<

Did you forget to read and believe Peter’s own spirit given interpretation of his dream?

(or did you simply reject it as you do all of Yeshua’s commandments?)
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[Lera]

I’m not teaching people to sin.
If you want to insist that you can keep all those 613 commandments I’ll spent the week looking for the ones can’t keep.
You are saying what you are saying cause you don’t them all.
Either the blood of Jesus cleanses you from all sin or it doesn’t . Grace is not an excuse to sin.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

"The “solution” is coming at Yom Kippur this year."

The Kingdom of Jerusalem is going to be reestablished that soon?

[editor-surveyor]

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Grace is forgiveness of past sins, in response to confession, repentance and Mikva.

That is where grace ends.

Yeshua always said “go and sin no more” after healing.

Was he making an impossible demand, or is Hebrews 6 factual?

Hebrews 6:

[1] Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
[2] Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
[3] And this will we do, if God permit.
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame

[BlatherNaut]

The Israelites had their valid temples in accordance with the OT.

Until...

"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not? Behold, your house shall be left to you, desolate. For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." (Mt 23:37-39)

"For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ' s, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise." (Gal 3 26-29)

Or maybe I'm wrong entirely and things will play out in a totally different way. The apostles writing at the time about "the holy place" would be looking at the still standing Temple of Jerusalem at the time, but maybe they were granted a vision of Vatican City and a flab-jowled fellow dressed in white, "in whose hands are iniquities, his right hand holding a beach ball."

LOL! That pathetic "flab-jowled fellow" with the beach ball appears to be an unfortunate side show.

[Lera]

No you are the one that is clueless

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “The Kingdom of Jerusalem is going to be reestablished that soon?” <<

Where do you get that cockamamie idea out of the simple facts that I posted?

The Kingdom will be established after we are “changed” at the last trump, and return with him the Day of Tabernacles, one last Sabbath of years after the event of which I spoke. (Daniels 70th Sabbath)

This is why we are given the appointed times; so that we can recognize where we are on Yehova’s schedule.
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[editor-surveyor]

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I read his word and believe it.

You zip through his word and call him a liar.
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