Skip to comments.Is Pope Francis Really "Not Against" the Enneagram?
Posted on 12/19/2016 5:54:09 PM PST by marshmallow
Austen Ivereigh, a journalist for the Catholic news website Crux, has written a post celebrating Pope Francis's 80th birthday in which he claims that the Holy Father is "not against" the Enneagram, though he does have reservations about its misuse:
"Pope Francis, incidentally, knows the Enneagram well and is not against it. But he is wary of the way it can be misused and lead to excessive introspection if not deployed within a solid spiritual framework."
In his post Ivereigh also wrote approvingly of the Enneagram, tracing its origin back to the Desert Fathers, the founders of early Christian monasticism:
"On the Enneagram, that personality-type identifier first created by the desert fathers which received its modern form from the Jesuits, Francis is an Eight - as Father Richard Rohr OFM, the leading Catholic authority on the Enneagram, has confirmed to me in an email. (Pope Francis, incidentally, knows the Enneagram well and is not against it. But he is wary of the way it can be misused and lead to excessive introspection if not deployed within a solid spiritual framework.)
The Enneagram has long been used in retreat houses to help people identify their core compulsion, usually a driving need or desire inherited from childhood which in adulthood needs to be redeemed if it is not to hamper our ability to function and relate to others. Eights are paradoxically both leaders and rebels, lifes challengers. Fearless and intuitive, often breathtakingly blunt, they instinctively go against elites, and have an uncommon ability to identify injustice and oppression. They grasp power, and know how to build it and use it. They have an extraordinary capacity to improvise, to live on the fly, and to deal with pressure.
What they do with this gift depends on their spiritual capacity. History, from King David.......
(Excerpt) Read more at ewtn.co.uk ...
The only authoritative assessment of the Enneagram issued by the Catholic Church is to be found in the 2003 examination of the New Age movement, Jesus Christ: The Bearer of the Water of Life. It was promulgated by the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.
The Holy See presents the Enneagram as the principle example of "New Age" gnosticism that is, in the words of Pope St John Paul II, in "conflict with all that is essentially Christian.
It’s an inexpensive Briggs-Myers type of test
The enneagram isn’t based on religion. Not sure what the fuss is about.
That enneagram belongs with other play sciences.
That is my position as well.
I read the report when it first was issued and have wanted to read it again, but I forgot the title of the document, so thanks for posting this.
My remark is NOT intended to be an insult to Catholid doctrine.
It is meant to be a barb at psychology.
When you flip it over it looks satanic
Like this Pope.
I’m thinking that the only reason this Enneagram
is being used is because some corporate consulting
psychologists decided they weren’t getting high enough
fees using the four zone personality grid and the Johari Window.
I worry more about the so called “Catholics” helping islam spread and curry the Africans to pinch off more evil offspring humping virgins to cure their AIDs.
The four zone personality grid is totally garbage.
But managers praise it like it is the holy grail of customer and coworker interaction.
I have a “garbage eye view” for the whole field of psychology.
Dr. Robert Hartley was the only shrink I ever thought was worth a fig.
He’s trying to immanetize the eschaton.
Nice reference, very RAW.
I enjoy talking personality test and have tried many.
Strengths Finder 100% Took in 2007 and look at results daily.
Myers Briggs 40% Helpful for about two years then useless.
Taylor Caldwell 20% Nice questions. Useless results.
Enneagram 0% boring for adults, fun for hippies and freaks.
So do I.
It’s just not possible to quantify the human condition like psychologists claim to do.
Just like the four-zone personality thing. Everyone falls into every category. Not one person falls into one category all the time. It’s complete utter crap.
It’s really no different than those “California Psychics” on TV.
They make such generalized statements that their advice will fit just about everyone.
And they take snippets of personal information to “customize” the presentation
which renders the gullible “amazed” at how accurate they are.
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