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Bergoglian Thug, Don Pinto, Leads Once Again with His Chin
Vox Cantoris ^ | December 2, 2016 | N/A

Posted on 12/02/2016 3:15:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

What rock did this pathetic cretin crawl out from under?

Who thought this modernist thug was ever fit for ordination?

Clearly trying to distance himself from the blowback that his boss might remove the red hats from the Four Cardinals, this intellectually challenged clericalist and papal hitman has, by his seemingly backing off, doubles down.

Maike Hickson has the story at OnePeterFive.

Let's take a look at hit-man Pinto's statement, shall we?

They have written to the pope and that is correct and legitimate. But, after there did not come [from the pope] an answer after a few weeks, they published the case. That is a slap in the face. The pope can choose to take counsel with his cardinals; but that is something different from imposing upon him a counsel.

The Cardinals followed Scripture. They addressed the matter privately. When that did not elicit a response, they took it "to the Church." They had every right and duty to ask the questions and every right to expect an answer.  

They are not a council with any kind of competences. On the contrary, they as cardinals are bound in a higher degree to be loyal to the pope. He stands for the gift of unity, the charisma of Peter. That is where the cardinals have to support him, and not hinder him. By what authority do the authors of the letter act? On the fact that they are cardinals? That is not sufficient. Please. Of course they can write to the pope and send him their questions, but to oblige him to answer and to publish the case is another matter.

The first loyalty of the Cardinals and any Catholic is loyalty to Christ. We don't worship the Pope. What Pinto is suggesting is papolatry and a sin. 

The absolute majority of the first synod and a two-thirds majority in the second, in which the members of the bishops’ conferences were present, have exactly approved these theses that now the four cardinals contest.

The man is deluded or he is a liar. I suggest he is a liar and he needs to be called out for it. Synod votes must be two-thirds. Neither Synod voted to allow Holy Communion for those living in adultery. That is what Francis Bergoglio did, notwithstanding. The majority did not vote for this.

I am not the type who can threaten [people]. To write something like this is quite a journalistic license and is not serious. What I have said is, rather: Francis is a lighthouse of mercy and has infinite patience. For him, it is about agreeing, not about forcing. It was a serious act that these four have published their letter. But to think that he would remove their cardinalate – no. I do not believe that he will do that. […] In itself, as pope, he could do such a thing. The way I know Francis, he will not do it.

Well, the light's gone out in that "lighthouse of mercy." I don't believe Pinto. I have every belief that this was and continues to be discussed and as I opined earlier, this was a trial balloon. 

This is crazy. Such a council of cardinals does not exist that could hold the pope accountable. The task of the cardinals is to help the pope in the exercise of his office – and not to obstruct him or to give him precepts. And this is a fact: Francis is not only in full accordance with the teaching, but also with all of his predecessors in the 20th century, and that was a Golden Age with excellent popes – starting with Pius X.

Again, the man is in to deception. Francis has made an abrupt rupture with his predecessors. Not one of them would have promulgated Amoris Laetitia. The man is deluded and frankly, promoting evil. The first duty of the Cardinals is to Christ. If the Pope is acting contrary, then there are examples in history and in the writings of Saints and Doctors on what must be done. That process has begun. These men are monsters and now that they know that they have been found out, expect their anger to increase along with their evil.

I am shocked, especially about the gesture of Meisner. Meisner was a great bishop of an important diocese [Cologne] – how sad that he now with this action puts a shadow upon his history. Meisner, a great spiritual leader! That he would arrive at that, I did not expect. He was very close to John Paul II and Benedict, and he knows that Benedict XVI and Francis are in full agreement about the analysis and the conclusions when it comes to the question of marriage. And Burke – we have worked together. He seemed to me to be an amiable person. Now I would ask him: Your Eminence, why did you do that?

The man is a heresiarch, a common thug, a pathetic excuse for a priest. 

But we must thank him, he has exposed himself and those around Bergoglio for what they are. 


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1 posted on 12/02/2016 3:15:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod

Don Pinto is a chooch.


2 posted on 12/02/2016 3:19:46 AM PST by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Just curious - I see a huge number of posts on FR related to the pope and catholic issues; is FR a catholic forum or something? I’m not being critical, just wondering :)


3 posted on 12/02/2016 4:01:49 AM PST by fred4prez
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To: fred4prez

LOL!!! Not a bit....it’s because this Pope (use a Capital “P” please) and the Catholic Church (also use a capital “C” is making a lot of news....and FR is a NEWS SITE!


4 posted on 12/02/2016 4:13:26 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

But be careful. I discovered the hard way they are sensitive about “Catholic Caucus” threads.

One does wonder what is going on, though. It occurs to me with divorce rates of 50 % that Catholic churches would be losing divorced Catholics in unacceptable numbers. I can’t imagine a pope would be responding to this in that way but it would be naive, I suppose, to not consider it.


5 posted on 12/02/2016 4:22:26 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fred4prez
Just my opinion. FR is not a "Catholic Forum" or a Protestant Forum or a Jewish Forum. However I would say that there has been a sub-forum of religious discussion topics for most of its existence.

As Russell Kirk said, the first principle of Conservatism:

First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.

This word order signifies harmony. There are two aspects or types of order: the inner order of the soul, and the outer order of the commonwealth. Twenty-five centuries ago, Plato taught this doctrine, but even the educated nowadays find it difficult to understand. The problem of order has been a principal concern of conservatives ever since conservative became a term of politics.

Our twentieth-century world has experienced the hideous consequences of the collapse of belief in a moral order. Like the atrocities and disasters of Greece in the fifth century before Christ, the ruin of great nations in our century shows us the pit into which fall societies that mistake clever self-interest, or ingenious social controls, for pleasing alternatives to an oldfangled moral order.

It has been said by liberal intellectuals that the conservative believes all social questions, at heart, to be questions of private morality. Properly understood, this statement is quite true. A society in which men and women are governed by belief in an enduring moral order, by a strong sense of right and wrong, by personal convictions about justice and honor, will be a good society—whatever political machinery it may utilize; while a society in which men and women are morally adrift, ignorant of norms, and intent chiefly upon gratification of appetites, will be a bad society—no matter how many people vote and no matter how liberal its formal constitution may be.

Now in my opinion, what a conservative person holds in this Order being "enduring" is an orthodoxy, and adherence to the enduring nature of his beliefs. Such orthodoxy is played out in all the religious denominations and even in such agnostics that adhere to conservative principles in the question of enduring moral order.

The issue that we see in this debate is do we have a yes and no in questions of enduring moral order or do we have a lot of situational ethics.

Those uninterested in these topics in the public fora can filter their topics of interest which takes care of most of these discussions.

6 posted on 12/02/2016 4:33:09 AM PST by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: mindburglar

Hey, show some respect. Don Pinto is the head bean in this chili. /joke


7 posted on 12/02/2016 5:20:20 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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