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"Adultery as a venial sin"- and other absurdities of defending the indefensible Francis Doctrine
Rorate Caeli ^ | September 15, 2016 | Dr. John Lamont

Posted on 09/16/2016 8:56:16 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: EagleOne

Voile, this what they are taught!


61 posted on 09/18/2016 5:12:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: ealgeone

I love that Scripture. Thank you for posting it.


62 posted on 09/18/2016 5:23:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: ealgeone
"Catholicism says:

Nope. You’re only forgiving yourself. Christ is not forgiving or absolving you of your sins."

Scuse me... Who says Catholicism says that? I've never heard "Catholicism" say such a thing. But obviously I'm missing some context.

63 posted on 09/18/2016 5:25:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I had always thought you to be a weak Catholic. Now you have confirmed it.

Jesus could forgive anybody of any sins in any manner and He did so. However, He instituted the Sacrament of Confession only after His Resurrection for his apostles to carry on.


64 posted on 09/18/2016 5:47:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

First, the Lady is not a ‘weak Catholic’ ... if she were such I might have gotten through to her by now. Second, it was you who made the strange comment quoted by ealgeone to which she is objecting as said by ‘Catholics’. Sad that you are on such a page as that one.


65 posted on 09/18/2016 6:25:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Scuse me... Who says Catholicism says that?

My FSSP said that in today's sermon.

And it was in regards to today's Gospel, in the Traditional Calendar.

66 posted on 09/18/2016 6:26:44 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MHGinTN

Any “catholic” who sides with protestants in their attacks on the Catholic Church, in general, and their specific attacks Sacrament of Confession is in my opinion a weak Catholic.


67 posted on 09/18/2016 6:29:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Perhaps you are confused?


68 posted on 09/18/2016 6:32:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m not confused; I am a Catholic who is confident in the One, True Faith.


69 posted on 09/18/2016 6:35:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SubMareener

I have been tempted by a temptress...I asked Jesus to help me...I made i through. It’s tough though!


70 posted on 09/18/2016 6:39:20 PM PDT by chasio649 (Donald Trump is not the president we need, he is the president SJWs deserve)
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To: ebb tide

IIRC, not even the Catholic Priests who post at FR would make such assertion that sins my ONLY be forgiven via the Catholic sacrament of the confession.


71 posted on 09/18/2016 6:40:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: ebb tide

I’m confused.


72 posted on 09/18/2016 6:40:56 PM PDT by chasio649 (Donald Trump is not the president we need, he is the president SJWs deserve)
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To: ebb tide
Der Ebb tide, I didn't ping you because I understood us to have an agreement that we wouldn't ping each other. However, since you seem to be initiating a volley, I'll join in.

"Jesus could forgive anybody of any sins in any manner and He did so. However, He instituted the Sacrament of Confession only after His Resurrection for his apostles to carry on."

Yes. I agree!

Jesus could still forgive anybody of any sins, and can still do so. He established the Sacrament of Confession to extend, and to distribute --- not to delimit --- the grace of His universal power to forgive.

It is an axiom of Catholic philosophy that we are bound by the Sacraments, but God is not bound by them. In other words, if we are aware that it is God's will for us to go to Confession for the forgiveness of our (mortal) sins, then we must do so because it is always wrong to refuse what we know God wants for us.

But if we didn't know, or couldn't go, God has other ways to forgive. He has not put Himself in an itty bitty locked box as if He were a prisoner of His own Sacraments.

Second, sins are also wiped away in Baptism and in the Anointing of the Sick. This is basic Sacramental theology. I have received the Anointing repeatedly, before major surgeries, and each time my sins were totally absolved.

Many saints who were privileged to receive visions of our Savior, were told they were forgiven their sins right the spot. Jesus told St. Faustina Kowalska that when He said, “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.” (Mt. 5: 7)He was showing us the many paths of mercy.

Mind you, all these saints greatly valued Sacramental Confession and urged all sinners to avail themsleves of this wonderful gift. However, in extraordinary circumstances, Jesus can forgive in other ways as well.

He is a genius, all-knowing all-powerful, limitless. He is God!

Do you read the Catechism, my friend?

73 posted on 09/18/2016 6:46:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ebb tide
Scuse me... Who says Catholicism says that? I've never heard "Catholicism" say such a thing. But obviously I'm missing some context

ebb tide: Nope. You’re only forgiving yourself. Christ is not forgiving or absolving you of your sins.<

Christianity says otherwise.

74 posted on 09/18/2016 6:46:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN

No you are apparently confused. Most people outside the One, True Faith are confused; otherwise they wouldn’t be outside It.


75 posted on 09/18/2016 6:48:10 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone
What--- er --- "some FReepers" say, and what "Catholicism" says, are sometimes two different things.

Nuff said?

76 posted on 09/18/2016 6:48:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I don't have to tell you, it goes without saying, there are some things better left unsaid.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

We never had an agreement.


77 posted on 09/18/2016 6:48:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: chasio649

I did some contract work in Turkey in the late 1990s. There were three of us guys, and, wouldn’t you know, three beautiful Black Sea girls showed up courtesy of our driver! One was picked especially for me! Didn’t work, but she got my replacement on the next trip ;-)


78 posted on 09/18/2016 6:49:41 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: ebb tide

Can you give me a link or contact information for your FSSP?


79 posted on 09/18/2016 6:49:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm here to learn.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Kinda hard to keep track. I need a scorecard on where everyone is on the issues! :)


80 posted on 09/18/2016 6:50:45 PM PDT by ealgeone
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