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Is the end of white Christian America a good thing?
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 16, 2016 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/17/2016 5:37:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"White Christian America is dying," proclaims the headline on a Monkey Cage blogpost by the perceptive political scientist John Sides. Like many headlines, it's an exaggeration of the thrust of the article that follows, which is an interview with Robert Jones, head of the Public Religion Research Institute, on his new book The End of White Christian America, based on PRRI and other research on religious beliefs and practices of Americans.

Sides's questions and Jones's answers are pretty much neutral in tone, but many readers will detect a tone of triumphalism in the book's title and in the thrust of its argument. You white Christians have been the majority for a long time, but it's not going to be your country any more — or so they seem to be saying. That's a variation on the message that demographic analysts like National Journal's Ron Brownstein have been delivering for some time. The percentage of voters classified as "white" has been declining and will continue to do so, to the extent that the Democratic party might emerge with a permanent electoral majority.

Some observations:

1. Predictions of inexorable political doom for one of our major political parties are likely to be wrong — as they have been since the demise of the Whigs in the middle 1850s. Politicians adapt to demographic change, new issues arise that divide voters in different ways, events change the political landscape. My observation is that voters who are self-consciously part of a demographic minority tend to vote more cohesively. Black Americans are the prime example, of course, and have been for the last 150 years, and for reasons every reader should find easy to understand. There are others: Catholics, according to Gallup, voted 78 percent for John Kennedy in 1960....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: barone; christiannation; christians; democrats; demographics; theend; trump; whites
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Try and ignore the divisive headline and delve into the meat of the article.
1 posted on 08/17/2016 5:37:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

synopsise for me ... I can’t get past the headline.


2 posted on 08/17/2016 5:40:19 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true ... and it pisses people off)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet he’s not counting on some of septegenarians going commando crusader on guys like him under the flag of St George like the good old days cause there is not a lot he can do to stop it...nor will he even have time to go what...
Freegards


3 posted on 08/17/2016 5:43:15 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hell no. next question.


4 posted on 08/17/2016 5:43:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: knarf; lexington minuteman 1775

Author assumes we’ll go quietly.

I think ... not.


5 posted on 08/17/2016 5:45:44 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like Mark Twain said, news of my death is exaggerated.


6 posted on 08/17/2016 5:47:17 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another weak-kneed Republican peeing in his boots.

I can't bring myself to read it.

If Barone thinks Christian America is the World's Christian Army, he is in for one hell of a surprise.

The pussies in my church will lay down their weapons, if any, at the first sign of conflict.

This is when the REAL Christian Soldiers stand up and are counted.

When an army is filled with the Holy Spirit...it is a truly dangerous thing.

Not a good idea to be on the opposing side.

7 posted on 08/17/2016 5:47:26 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a lot of these articles miss is the explosive growth of non-denominational evangelical churches, many of which meet in school cafeterias, movie theaters or other rented spaces, or meet in homes. Many don’t get picked up in the statistics because they are not part of a larger body. Also, many of them tend to be very multi-ethnic. That’s where a lot of the disaffected mainliners have gone, who are still serious Christ followers but have gotten disgusted with the denominational churches.


8 posted on 08/17/2016 5:50:57 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lets make sure it’s the ruling elite and the media who go away.


9 posted on 08/17/2016 5:51:32 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%9)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Far from triumphalism, the ungodly should quake in their boots at the prospect of no Christians. In the Bible, the ungodly are spared God’s judgment because there is a contingent of the population who still believes in God. Get them out of the picture, and God can visit His judgment on the ungodly with no reservations.The account of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah comes to mind. “Be not deceived. God will not be mocked. Whatever a man sows, that he will reap.” (Galatians 6:7)


10 posted on 08/17/2016 5:55:21 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s worked great in Zimbabwe and South Africa. It’ll work just as well here. But? Who will pay the taxes for all the free stuff?


11 posted on 08/17/2016 5:55:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want to say this. Professional Christianity has brought this on their own heads. Sheeple sit there for an hour and listen to a rock band and pay the mortgage and the staff for their houses, cars and 401ks. What a racket. Jesus is the Son of God. Through your belief in him and that fact — you are saved!! John 3:16. There is no other way to eternal life. ZERO!! The professional church condoned queers and baby killing and compromise!! They actually teach worship of the contradictory and erroneous bible!!There is no compromise with God . There is belief in Jesus as his Son or you go to OBLIVION!!


12 posted on 08/17/2016 5:56:12 PM PDT by WENDLE (hillary took bribes through bill and foundation!!MILLIONS!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am guessing we see the dem party implode to some extent in the future. It is too fractured and most of it’s factions can’t get along. Gays and muslims, latino’s and blacks, the overall far left v Jews, etc.


13 posted on 08/17/2016 5:56:46 PM PDT by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s the meat in 3 bullet points or less?


14 posted on 08/17/2016 6:09:53 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: All

Sure - if you like living in Zimbabwe or Venezuela (hint: it ain’t really living).


15 posted on 08/17/2016 6:20:17 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Organic Panic
It’s worked great in Zimbabwe and South Africa. It’ll work just as well here.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm starting think that Russia may turn out to be the last bastion of Christianity. Or at least, the last culture that resembles a Christian culture in some ways.

Yes, abortion is tolerated in Russia, as an entrenched remnant of its communist past.

However Russians don't tolerate "gay" propaganda. Homosexuals aren't executed there, as they are in Islamic countries, but they're not allowed to flaunt their perverse practices publicly, e.g. in "gay pride" parades.

16 posted on 08/17/2016 6:23:17 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I’ll counter....Is the beginning of brown Muslim Sharia America going to be great for the homonazis? Probably not


17 posted on 08/17/2016 7:17:16 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I discussed this very article with someone else earlier today. My response to them:

Here are my thoughts on this. I know you are already familiar with much of this but sometime we have to re-center, re-focus, and remember what we already know to understand that news articles like these are merely advertisements for what evil wants us to believe. Having said that, here goes...

Remember that Satan is the father of lies. He demoralizes his enemy so they will give up and lose hope by using deception and trickery. The media (distributor of news and propaganda or as George Orwell would refer to them - The Ministry of Truth in 1984) is one of his most effective tools Satan has because people believed that if the news media reports something it must be true. Maybe in the past but no more now that the radical left who are composed in large part of hedonistic heathens have taken over it and Hollywood. Saul Alinsky, one of Satan's disciples wrote Rules for Radicals which became the Left's manual for deception and manipulation. When I see articles like the one you posted I remember that the MSM also uses his same tactics. There are 13 rules that they use to manipulate societies using deception. Five of them are used continuously by the press and can be summarized as: 1) lie to the enemy to make them think you are more powerful than you are (i.e...atheism is taking over and Christianity is dying out), 2) poke fun at the Christians and belittle them anyway you can (which includes trolling), 3) keep doing it until you wear them out, 4) tell a lie enough and they will believe it (i.e...that Christianity is dying out and that gays make up 25 % of the population which is nowhere close but nearer to 2 - 3 % of the population), and 5) pick your target (Christians), focus on them, get pissed off at them, and attack them. The tactics employed by the left are all Satan inspired written by a man who dedicated his book (Rules for Radicals) to "Lucifer". I know you are aware of this but we have to keep reminding ourselves that the leftist news media follows rules written by a man who was a follower of Satan. Here's the specific rules for radicals that I see the MSM use all the time in one fashion or another:

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

8. Keep the pressure on with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

There's a reason that the Satanists and Muslims all hate Christians. Its because they worship different gods. Christians worship Yahweh and Jesus (who is the only true path to Heaven). Muslims  worship Allah (Satan pretending to be God).

What I have seen with my own eyes the last 7 1/2 years is that there are more people turning to God. So who am I going to believe? My own eyes or the lies of the deceivers? 

18 posted on 08/17/2016 7:25:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: kaehurowing

A concrete example of how believers have left the formal church and denominations and are now meeting in non-denominational churches, such as this one in a high school gym:

This is where Christians are moving to, they are not leaving the faith.

http://www.reallife.la/blog/2016/8/18/view-from-the-bleachers


19 posted on 08/18/2016 1:16:08 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Is the end of white Christian America a good thing?”

Si, Senor...../sarc


20 posted on 08/18/2016 1:18:44 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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