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Martini Pope: Cohabitating Couples Have Grace of "Real Marriage"
Catholic Family News ^ | June 19, 2016 | John Vennari

Posted on 06/20/2016 8:13:47 PM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 06/20/2016 8:13:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

He’s referring to the Gauchos or Argentine cowboys.


2 posted on 06/20/2016 8:33:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ebb tide

So why even bother considering marriage, if as you say there is no spiritual upside or benefit?
If it feels good, do it,right?


3 posted on 06/20/2016 9:06:08 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: ebb tide

I thought they were going to say that Frankie had a thing for martinis. Stirred, not shaken.


4 posted on 06/20/2016 9:15:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When was the last time you heard a celebrity say, If Trump wins, I'm moving to MEXICO!)
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To: ebb tide

This pope is truly from hell.


5 posted on 06/20/2016 9:18:56 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: ebb tide

SURELY he didn’t mean THAT!???????????????????????????


6 posted on 06/20/2016 10:01:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Unfortunately Bergoglio most surely did.

While Vennari is not my cup of tea, if anything he is understated in his reporting.


7 posted on 06/20/2016 10:17:26 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: aquila48
This pope is truly from hell.

While not Catholic and thus not the pope, Bergoglio is definitely from, and most certainly headed back to, that netherworld destination.

8 posted on 06/20/2016 10:19:58 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: ebb tide

This man is an unmitigated disaster. Was the holy spirit on vacation when the college of cardinals was voting? Or were the collegium simply not listening? My money is on the latter.

CC


9 posted on 06/20/2016 10:20:14 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: SGNA

it is so sad
while fidelity (even outside of marriage) is often a noble trait,..

surely a Christian priest should state views that do not advocate or enable or encourage or reward cohabitation without benefit of marriage...or sound like they do

the last thing we need are more unmarried people shacking up (frequently as a practical matter, and of course always as well as a spiritual concern)


10 posted on 06/20/2016 10:22:19 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Based on Martini’s views, why even be a Catholic when it is no different than not being a Catholic. Dark days indeed.


11 posted on 06/20/2016 10:50:16 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: ebb tide

JPII made both Kasper and Bergoglio Cardinals. And he appointed literally thousands of rotten, corrupt, heretical bishops. And then he whined about how uncooperative they were, wrote encyclicals correcting their heresies, and spent hundreds of millions of dollars traveling the world, correcting their heresies in his preaching.

He should have put Mother Theresa, Judie Brown, and Michael Matt in charge of appointing bishops. They would have weeded out the pro-aborts and sodomites, anyway.


12 posted on 06/20/2016 11:22:47 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ebb tide

The Pope know not where Grace comes from.


13 posted on 06/21/2016 12:17:50 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The US is now as corrupt as Mexico. Hillary will be rewarded. The US is only a Goldman Brand now.)
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To: ebb tide
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/06/19/vocem-alienorum-the-voice-of-antipope-francis-bergoglio-is-the-voice-of-a-stranger/
14 posted on 06/21/2016 12:19:16 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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Finally, we must remember that the solution does not lie in returning the supposed good old days of Benedict XVI and John Paul II, two Vatican II revolutionaries whose modernist, ecumenical policies produced the current upheaval (e.g., it was John Paul II who raised both Kasper and Bergoglio to the rank of Cardinal). Rather, the answer is a return to full integrity of Catholic doctrine in the same meaning and the same explanation of what the Church always held, and to the counter-revolutionary, anti-Modernist framework of the greatest Pontiff of the 20th Century, Pope St. Pius X. No other solution will do.

Amen. It is so good to see that John Vennari is rightly equating Benedict with all of the other Modernists.

15 posted on 06/21/2016 5:57:13 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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Amen. It is so good to see that John Vennari is rightly equating Benedict with all of the other Modernists.

....until they want him to consecrate Russia again for them, ahem.

16 posted on 06/21/2016 6:46:01 AM PDT by SGNA
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To: TangibleDisgust; piusv
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/06/19/vocem-alienorum-the-voice-of-antipope-francis-bergoglio-is-the-voice-of-a-stranger/

Thanks for this item. I don't have time right now to read it thoroughly and comment on it but it seems that while Ann rightly denounces Bergoglio and does it quite well, she is still pushing the line that Ratzinger (the heretic) is the real pope, she still refuses to listen to, let alone follow, that the Church teaches that the See is vacant due to heresy, and she is trotting out the bogus prophecy concocted by the dissident wing of the Franciscans and NOT by St. Francis in their dispute with Pope Martin V. On the plus side, any quotes by Cardinal Manning are excellent!

It is the same as the garbage from Vennari who denounces anyone for quoting that CATHOLIC TEACHING itself pronounces the Papal See vacant due to heresy, insists instead that Bergoglio is still the pope, BUT he would not permit him to teach the Catechism to his children. GIVE ME A BREAK!!

Also, congratulations, your tag line says it all!

17 posted on 06/21/2016 7:51:01 AM PDT by SGNA
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Ann is slowly peeling the onion. Although she’s only removed the first layer, she’s on the right track.


18 posted on 06/21/2016 8:09:56 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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Yes, but she is the type that can fall off the cart, plop down in the middle of the road, and never show any motion again.


19 posted on 06/21/2016 8:17:20 AM PDT by SGNA
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To: TangibleDisgust; piusv; SunLakesJeff; metmom
Cardinal Manning of England was a convert to the Catholic Faith in the 1800's and an excellent source of Catholic wisdom. This is what is coming, this is what Satan's earthly minions have planned.

“The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts very new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatize from the Faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism. …Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible; hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.”

– Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, pp. 88-90)

20 posted on 06/21/2016 10:09:09 AM PDT by SGNA
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