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David and Ruth in the World of the Brisker Rav and Kabbalah
TheYeshiva.net ^ | Spring 2013 | Rabbi Joseph Isaac Jacobson

Posted on 06/06/2016 9:05:13 PM PDT by Phinneous

An incredible class about the infamous lineage of King David. The Book of Ruth is read by Jews during the holiday of Shavuos (this year Saturday night the 11th.)

How could Boaz have married Rus (Ruth) the Moavite? The Torah says explicitly not to marry Amonites and Moavites?

Scholars-- feast your ears. Christian apologize-rs...come hear the majesty and secrets of the Torah.

NOTE: The rabbi uses some Hebrew and Yiddish but translates everything at least once. PM me or consult your local Orthodox Jewish rabbi for clarification.

Why does King David come from a seemingly illicit relationship and lineage? What is the true meaning of the verses in Psalms 118:22-24?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Judaism; Theology
KEYWORDS: boaz; david; jesse; ruth
Rabbi Jacobson also has a long 8-part series on the Book of Ruth here:

https://www.theyeshiva.net/search//705/

Extensive sources in Torah, NaCh, Gemara, Midrash, Rishonim and Achronim. A beautifully-researched series. Learn the secrets of how G-d brings Moshiach into the world.

1 posted on 06/06/2016 9:05:14 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Zionist Conspirator; HiTech RedNeck; Nachum

I’ve posted this (the series at least) a few times. This class abridges the whole series— incredible. Hafach Bah v’hafach Bah. Examine it (Torah) and examine it. (Avos perek 5)

Enjoy.


2 posted on 06/06/2016 9:08:08 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

I have heard it was to bring us into a kinship relationship with Jesus? Or pave the way for the acceptance of gentiles into the ranks of the Lord’s chosen?

Pardon my lack of eloquence. I don’t speak Bible very well.


3 posted on 06/06/2016 9:22:06 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Paisley Park is in my heart.)
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To: Phinneous

Bookmark


4 posted on 06/06/2016 9:28:30 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Dunno the Christian perspective. I looked up a few Christian commentaries on how Boaz could marry a Moavite.... They bend into pretzels to avoid the classic Jewish answer(s). This class elucidates them.


5 posted on 06/06/2016 10:20:08 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Thanks!!! Saving to return in a couple days.

Meanwhile,

http://rchaimqoton.blogspot.com/2007/07/illegitimate-origins-of-king-davids.html


6 posted on 06/06/2016 10:30:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Phinneous

Interesting, I’ll listen to it while I’m working today then, thanks.


7 posted on 06/07/2016 4:36:58 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Paisley Park is in my heart.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
I have heard it was to bring us into a kinship relationship with Jesus? Or pave the way for the acceptance of gentiles into the ranks of the Lord’s chosen?

Far from the only Gentile in the line of Jesus the Christ.

8 posted on 06/07/2016 5:40:40 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("I don't care if there's a billion of you. You're in a cult.")
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To: Phinneous

Is the series audio?

Are there transcripts ?

I am severely hard of hearing.

To what does the “stone that builders rejected” refer here?

The Psalms

Psalm 118:22-24

22
The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24
The Lord has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad.


9 posted on 06/07/2016 5:45:02 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Phinneous
Thanks for the ping. I'll be doing my annual Shavu`ot bump ('im yirtzeh HaShem) later this week.
10 posted on 06/07/2016 7:43:26 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem first! Anything else is idolatry, a violation of the very first commandment!)
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To: WildHighlander57

The series appears to be audio-only (may have some Hebrew subtitles when he quotes a verse in the Holy Tongue.)

There are source documents downloadable for each class (as a link below the video.) These are usually Hebrew with English translation.

The “Stone that the builders rejected” is none other than David. (From Jewish rabbinical tradition) His father was himself unsure, after fathering 7 sons, if he was truly Jewish or if he was “blemished” because his grandmother was Ruth the Moabitess. So he planned (again, according to Jewish rabbinical tradition... the Talmud and the post-second-Temple rabbinical commentaries) he planned to marry his wife’s non-Jewish maid. Also through Jewish law, she would become Jewish and her offspring would be Jewish. So Yishai (Jesse) planned to start fresh with “kosher” or more to the point, not potentially-unkosher offspring. BUT the maid told her master, Jesse’s wife, father of the other 7, and the wife did the Rachel/Leah switcheroo.... she slipped into the marriage chamber and fathered an eighth son, David.. But the father and all the brothers assumed he was a bastard to an unfaithful mother!!

So in the Book of Samuel (1 Sam 16) Jesse does not bother to gather David with the rest of his sons.... Jesse doesn’t consider him a son! He left him tending sheep in the field.

So when Samuel finally sees David, the 8th, and G-d tells Samuel to “Arise, anoint him,” David (again, and I’m caveating for Christians— this is stock and trade Judaism 101 but I’m giving letting you know the rabbinical tradition) David’s mother utters the verse “The stone the builders rejected...” David replies, “From G-d is this, it is wondrous in our eyes...” And all say, “This is the day the L-rd made...” The entire family realizes that after 28 years the secret is revealed. David is Jewish, and a future king. Jesse is Jewish. Ruth was a complete Jewish convert.

But the class(es) deal with many, many more traditions surrounding the lineage of David and Ruth, and the truly miraculous way G-d brought the antecedents of Moshiach (Messiah) into the world. And I’ll add that the Jewish law is that the Messiah can come from any of the shoots of the trunk of Jesse..... and we Jews keep track. My next door neighbor is, father-to-son, a descendant of King David. I’ll keep my eye on him. (He is pretty charitable and learned.)

Have an outstanding day.


11 posted on 06/07/2016 11:04:46 AM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Many thanks, Phinneous, for the background on this!

I will see if I can get those source docs you mentioned.


12 posted on 06/07/2016 5:46:42 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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