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10 Lies Christians Believe
Unsealed.org ^ | 5/17/16 | Gary

Posted on 05/17/2016 11:34:00 AM PDT by amessenger4god

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21 posted on 05/17/2016 12:24:29 PM PDT by DFG
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To: Louis Foxwell

quote-Another fraud is Jesus preached and healed for 3 years. It was actually one year.

Actually, with study of the scriptures and the Father’s calendar, His ministry lasted 3 1/2 years. or 1,260 days, or 42 months.

His minisitry began on the Day of Atonement, 10th Day of the 7th month, in year ‘1’.

and ended on The Feast of Passover, the 14th Day of the 1st month, in year ‘4’.

quite awesome to see the math unfold like it did!


22 posted on 05/17/2016 12:28:04 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: afsnco

Swine is easy? I’m guessing it is greedy, lustful, lazy.. basically evil people.

But wouldn’t we want to help the worst of society?


23 posted on 05/17/2016 12:30:54 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: T-Bone Texan

Sounds like a great church!

One where Satan reigns and all sorts of idolatry is rampant.


24 posted on 05/17/2016 12:31:27 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: I want the USA back; amessenger4god
About the faith and works thing. Sorry, but you’re wrong here.

No he isn't.

Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

I like the KJV better, wish more people would use it today.

There is not one scripture quoted here that would not be more clear an eloquent if the author had used the KJV of Scripture. Otherwise no argument from me on the conclusions.

Not one Church can honestly say they do not have a hook in their doctrine that is designed to keep the member in line and dutiful.

25 posted on 05/17/2016 12:33:15 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: pgyanke

Good perspective!

From Ron Graham:

“I am the way the truth and the life” – the whole reason for this statement was that people would believe and not perish. Those who do not believe Jesus’ words will certainly perish. “…that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16b. This verse is just as exclusive as the verse in John 14:6. To obtain everlasting life we must first believe in Him (Jesus Christ) as the one who gives everlasting life. There is no other God and there is simply no reason for political correctness. If God Almighty isn’t being PC why should we?

“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” John 3:17. There is no condemnation in Jesus Christ the condemnation is in believing there are other paths/roads/religions that lead to the Father. All who believe this erroneous concept are condemning themselves to Hell. God gives us His truth to follow – it’s up to us to believe and to follow Him as our only Savoir and Lord. “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.” John 3:19. “


26 posted on 05/17/2016 12:36:57 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: TEXOKIE; I want the USA back; amessenger4god

If both are necessary Christ didn’t need to die. If our works mattered to our salvation then we could keep the law. If we can keep the law, Christ died in vain. (Galations 2:21)

Works are PROOF of our trust, not required for Salvation.


27 posted on 05/17/2016 12:37:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (I am not "reaganaut1".)
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To: FatherofFive
In regards to James 2:24, see this article about James and this article about the Gospel:

"It is also true that the justification of which James speaks is not the justification of which Paul speaks. One indication of this is the timing. Abraham was justified by works "when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar" (James 2:21). This was about thirty years after he had been justified by faith (Gen. 15:6). James shows that he is sensitive to timing when he says in 2:23 that Abraham's justification by works "fulfilled" Genesis 15:6. He speaks of Genesis 15:6 as a prophecy, and of Genesis 22 as its fulfillment. Prophecy and fulfillment do not occur at the same time and are not the same thing.

What then is the nature of justification in James? James indicates this plainly in 2:18: "Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works." He is speaking about demonstrating the genuineness of faith.

In Romans 4, Paul addresses the question, How was Abraham justified? In this question, "justified" means "reckoned righteous before God," and Paul's answer is: by the imputation of Christ's righteousness, received by faith alone. But when James asks how Abraham was justified, he is assuming that Abraham already had faith. So his question really is, How was Abraham justified in claiming to have faith? In this question, justified means "judged to have made a valid claim," and James's answer is: by producing good works. The questions are different, the answers are different, the justifications are different.

Paul speaks of a justification that comes by faith and not by works, while James speaks of a justification that comes by works and not by faith. Paul teaches us that we are constituted righteous before God by faith alone. James teaches us that the genuineness of our faith is demonstrated by our works."
28 posted on 05/17/2016 12:40:08 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: TEXOKIE; I want the USA back
Exactly. IMHO, both are necessary.

Both are good, one is necessary.

If you are willing to set a price for something(works) then it is not free. Jesus made it abundantly clear that Grace is a free Gift of God. He also made it clear that works are a good thing.

29 posted on 05/17/2016 12:40:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: itsahoot; All

I prefer the KJV version also.

It’s what I was reading when I became a saved Born Again Christian.

Any version will work though.

Just pray before reading that the Holy Spirit will show you what God wanted to get across to you.

He is ever faithful.


30 posted on 05/17/2016 12:41:04 PM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/Coverup Treason ARREST the traitors! Hillary-Obama-Rice-Holder-Learner-Lynch et al)
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To: delchiante

another is Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.


31 posted on 05/17/2016 12:42:38 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: TEXOKIE

When you’re in love with someone, you eagerly want to do for them, be with them, read their love letters, etc. For a Christian, it is the same. If we love the Lord, really love him and aren’t just being religious, we will love to do what He asks of us, trust Him when things don’t go the way we wish they would; we love to be in his presence and read his words.


32 posted on 05/17/2016 12:46:58 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: itsahoot

Works are the evidence that we’re saved, but they are not what saves us.


33 posted on 05/17/2016 12:47:42 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes, those who believe St. James “Faith without works is dead”, and St. Paul who was “working out my salvation in fear and trembling”, understand that stating your belief in Christ and His resurrection, does not excuse you from living out that belief.


34 posted on 05/17/2016 12:48:44 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: RedWulf

Don’t just blame unchaste women. Christian men can be unchaste too and they are just as accountable to God for their actions.


35 posted on 05/17/2016 12:49:03 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: pgyanke

“What does it mean to ‘believe’ to you? James 2:19 ‘You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.’ Surely, there is more to belief than mere knowledge.”

To place one’s trust in / have faith in. The demons believe in God’s existence, but they have no faith or trust in Him.


36 posted on 05/17/2016 12:49:28 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: No_More_Harkin

The key is in the verse. If they’re willing to respectfully listen to the Gospel, great! If they become more and more angry and violent, such that they desire to “turn again and rend” us, well, Christ tells us we don’t have to evangelize them. It’s Christ who called them “dogs” and “swine,” and it’s Christ who commands us to not give “pearls” to swine and to not give “that which is holy” to dogs.


37 posted on 05/17/2016 12:50:44 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: amessenger4god
Paul teaches us that we are constituted righteous before God by faith alone.

Well, no. That is not at all what Paul says.

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12

38 posted on 05/17/2016 12:52:04 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: G Larry
I addressed James 2:24 in post #28.

Regarding Philippians 2:12, notice Paul's very careful use of language: he does not say "work for your salvation", he says "work out your salvation." The Greek work is κατεργάζεσθε and it means "work out." In other words:

"Work out of a position of..."

NOT

"Work for something to be obtained..."
39 posted on 05/17/2016 12:55:50 PM PDT by amessenger4god
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To: reaganaut

I saw online a sermon on “works”. We use the same word - but in the Bible there are three words for “work”. I think it is “dyonmos” (dynamite) for the the work that God does. Both by Himself, and through us. It is that word that is used in the verse about “faith without works is dead”.

Another word is for work that man does - I think that is used once in the Bible. And then a third word for “work” which I can’t remember at the moment - but it is also used quite a bit in the Bible.


40 posted on 05/17/2016 12:56:26 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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