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10 Lies Christians Believe
Unsealed.org ^ | 5/17/16 | Gary

Posted on 05/17/2016 11:34:00 AM PDT by amessenger4god

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To: StormPrepper

Your assignment for today is to read and comprehend 2 Cor 11:4


141 posted on 05/19/2016 9:00:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

quote-YES, inductive study reaps dividends!! Interesting in light of the tribulation and end times 1260 days the two witnesses.

Inductive study- I like the way you put that!

all for His Glory!


142 posted on 05/19/2016 12:47:07 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: itsahoot
It is a means to control the membership, because you have never done enough. Ask yourself why Jesus repeatedly told us he paid the total price? That truth will set you free from the Deacon or Cardinal or Pope, nothing else will because they will never let you pay off the works bill they claim you owe. >p> Jesus said, if you love me keep my commandments. And He even made them simple by condensing them into two commandments.

The question will always be how many works are enough, if works are what save you, but they aren't.


He did not condense anything down to just two commandments. The works of God are continuous. You're never supposed to stop for the duration of your whole life.

Matt 25 is an explicit promise to those that do the works and to those that don't.

Perhaps you don't know exactly what are the works Jesus is referring to. Because in reality, there are quite a few. If this is the case then you're following the wrong path.
143 posted on 05/19/2016 4:36:02 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
John 6:28 Then they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, “This is the work of God: to believe in the One He has sent.”
144 posted on 05/19/2016 5:51:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: StormPrepper
He did not condense anything down to just two commandments. The works of God are continuous. You're never supposed to stop for the duration of your whole life.

Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

You can continue to pay your indulgence fee if you like, mine has been paid in full and for all time.

145 posted on 05/19/2016 11:56:20 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: itsahoot
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Context means everything.

Matt 22:37 is an umbrella statement. Love the Lord and if you Love the Lord you will do what He says.

In Matt 25:32-46 the Lord states explicitly that they who didn't do the works they were commanded to do are cast out at the judgement.

I'm curious, do you think the Lord is joking or not serious? Or is this the first time you've read Matt 25? Since you don't believe works matter...how do you plan on getting around it?
146 posted on 05/20/2016 6:25:00 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: MHGinTN
John 6:28 Then they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus replied, “This is the work of God: to believe in the One He has sent.”

John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

A=B=C

If you truly believe in Jesus Christ, you will keep His commandments and do His works.

James said it:

James 1
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

Anyone that goes around teaching that our actions don't matter is deceiving themselves.

Because:

James 2
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Matt 25: 32-46 - The righteous aren't righteous because of what they claimed to believe. They were judged to be righteous because of their works.

If I were to follow your path, I would have to deny these scriptures too. I would have to live the rest of my life trying to convince myself that those scriptures don't exist. And the worst of it would be when Jesus looks me in eye and says "begone", just like He promised to do...


147 posted on 05/20/2016 6:50:24 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
Just this one time I will try to get through to the Mormon mind of works based religion. It will not become a system of exchange because closed minds are to receive the dust at their door, especially at this late hour:

You cite Matthew 25:32-46 and assert, "The righteous aren't righteous because of what they claimed to believe. They were judged to be righteous because of their works."

So let's look at the scripture passage for context and clarification ...

Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels are with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be assembled in front of him, and he will cull them out, one from another, like a shepherd separates sheep from goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right but the goats on his left.

First, this scene is at the END of The Age, after the Great Tribulation, and is referred to as the Great White Throne of Judgment. The 'nations' are not the geographic nations of our epoch but the races of peoples throughout History, such as the Mongols, the Jews, the Franks, etc. The Church Age believers are not in this sorting process for we have returned FROM HEAVEN with Jesus to be at the ending of the Great Tribulation prior to the millennium beginning.

In order to rightly divide the Word of God the reader must apply certain tools of understanding, one of which is dispensations of periods in which God deals with humanity differently from other dispensations.

In the Church Age --the Age of the Ekklesia, or body of believers based upon what Jesus stated in John 6 believing in the One Whom God has sent, we are not under the law but under Grace of God in Christ, so that any who believe in Whom God has sent are the born from above as taught by Jesus in John 3:14 where Jesus told Nicodemus the means to deliverance is foreshadowed by the incident in the desert found in Numbers 21:4-9 ... and iterated specifically in John 6 when someone asked Him to tell them what works God requires for salvation and Jesus replied ONLY believe on Him Whom God has sent for deliverance.

A non-Christian religion will usually accept that teaching and add 'but these other passages teach ...' as if Jesus left something out that we must do. GOD does not trick folks or leave important points out when He answers directly, as in John 6. The key to understanding why Jesus added no other requirements is found in comprehending what it means to be born from above, thus a newborn in God's family.

GOD's Promise to believers is that HE will put a new heart in you, He will raise you up in the way that you should go. He does that by placing the earnest of your inheritance in your spirit, the spark of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the 'still small voice within', but we illustrate our saving faith by listening and seeking to obey that voice, in order to grow in Grace and knowledge, showing the works illustrating our belief in His deliverance from our sin nature.

Just as an infant must be cared for by the parent(s) so God has instructed us that we will be --not might be, or should be, but WILL BE-- raising BELIEVERS up in the way that we should go as members of His family. But God does not impose that upon us, He gentle allows us to come to the understanding that without His life in us directing us we cannot do the works of righteousness needed to raise us up in the way that we should go. THEN our works reflect of Whose family we are members, as James was teaching those with ears to hear.

I have not quoted the entire Matthew passage from 36 to the end of the chapter because the key to understanding what is seen in the passage is all you need to comprehend the meaning of the passage entirely: the scene is after all the testing of the earth dwellers (Tommy Ice's phrase) and the final seven years of dealing with sin in Israel, such that those who continue to disbelieve in Jesus as Their Messiah are destroyed and the believing remnant are saved through to populate the millennium kingdom over which we His bride will reign with Him.

If you will but open your heart for a moment, to see the dispensational reality God illustrates, you will gain a key to understanding Scripture of a very powerful nature. Trying to apply the dispensational way God deals with the dead who are not The Church, not the Bride of Christ, and not Israel is error in rightly dividing the Word of God. It causes one to not get the timing correct, not correctly identify to whom the passage is speaking of, and what God's judgment is dealing with. Under His Grace, the ekklesia, the body of believers no matter the religion or denomination, they are all judged in the Cross of Christ, not their subsequent works. BUT we have a responsibility as members of His family by His Grace to us to listen to the guiding voice of His indwelling Spirit ... fro if we refuse to do that, we are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life by our own rejection of being raised up in the way that we should go. We are in the dispensation of Grace, not the dispensation of The Law, or the previous dispensation reaching back to Noah.

One last point: all the dispensations of God dealing with humanity are gathered under The Cross of Christ providing deliverance from the sin nature. Abraham believed God and it was counted for him righteousness. I believed God's Promise in Jesus and it has been accounted to me ... try it, you'll like it!

148 posted on 05/20/2016 8:01:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN
Errata: "Just as an infant must be cared for by the parent(s) so God has instructed us that we will be --not might be, or should be, but WILL BE-- raising BELIEVERS up in the way that we should go as members of His family."

Should read: "Just as an infant must be cared for by the parent(s) so God has instructed us that we will be .. raised up in the way that we should go as members of His family."

149 posted on 05/20/2016 8:14:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: StormPrepper
Since you don't believe works matter...how do you plan on getting around it?

Works matter, just not to Salvation. You have to ignore an awful lot of Scripture to be able to put the Bonds of Works on yourself and your fellow members.

150 posted on 05/20/2016 9:44:21 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: itsahoot

It is the nature of cults ... like Mormonism.


151 posted on 05/20/2016 10:39:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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