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Heresiarch Kasper: Pope will not preserve that which has been! Do you get it yet friends?
Vox Cantoris ^ | 4/28/16 | Vox Cantoris

Posted on 04/28/2016 9:06:33 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

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21 posted on 04/28/2016 10:24:37 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: grania

Prior to the First Crusade, the Normans opened up the Mediterranean and Black Sea Trade. They were the founders of the Russian state. It was traders who brought to right rats to the West two hundred years later.


22 posted on 04/28/2016 10:38:57 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: bike800

The Catechism, a “sure norm” for doctrine of the faith as per St John Paul II, provides that divorced and remarried without annulment or without living chastely as brother and sister, should refrain from communion. Pope Francis seems to say in Amoris Laetitia that they can take communion in some cases if they so discern with a priest. If that is the correct interpretation, then it is a change in doctrine.


23 posted on 04/28/2016 10:40:23 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ebb tide
"Let’s hope the current Pope will also stop denying his Christ."

I don't understand how you could assert that. My understanding is that Popes have no history of dogma failures.

24 posted on 04/28/2016 10:41:24 AM PDT by ex-snook (The one God sent Jesus here to show us the way.)
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To: RobbyS

That makes sense. Didn’t Venice have a Port in Crimea?


25 posted on 04/28/2016 10:56:27 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Yes, and the other trading states, too. The price of expanding trade. Thing a lot of people don’t know is how thoroughly the Arabs had cut Europe off by sea. They conquerers Sicily and threatened to conquer Italy.Piracy was rampant. The came the Vikings and they were the badest pirates of all. Thenthey settled down and became Christians of a sort. But they were in competition with Byzantium which explains a lot about how the Crusades went.


26 posted on 04/28/2016 11:02:49 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: Unam Sanctam

As you worship, so you believe. I spent many years in Germany, and came to realize that the Church is practically a department of the government. They are dependent on the Church tax, and now are desperate to keep their numbers up.


27 posted on 04/28/2016 11:06:35 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

Because of their big pot of money, the German pushups have a lot of clout overseas. Their wealth explains why Rome is so inclined to listen to Bishops who are for all intents and purposes, Arians. Sixty years ago, In Spellman’s heyday, they kept in good weigh the American Church. But Spellman was an untramontanist.


28 posted on 04/28/2016 11:10:12 AM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

Thank you for filling in that history information. I knew that Arab influence was strong on the Iberian Peninsula, but didn’t appreciate how it all fits together.


29 posted on 04/28/2016 11:11:32 AM PDT by grania
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To: bike800
Can someone please tell me what doctrine or teaching he has officially changed during his time in office?

The idea is to allow the Church to accept Christ’s teaching “in theory, but not in practice.” The very definition of "We're not changing doctrine, we're changing pastoral sensitivity."

30 posted on 04/28/2016 11:16:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Strawman #351)
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To: ex-snook

That’s your problem. You don’t understand how there can be good popes and bad popes.


31 posted on 04/28/2016 11:35:43 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ex-snook

I think you have no idea of the difference between dogma and dog food.


32 posted on 04/28/2016 11:38:51 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: BlatherNaut
I'm not even Catholic, but I can see this Pope is not teaching, let alone protecting, scripture as it appears in the Bible.

The communists have been very adept at invading all kinds of organizations, as well as, this country to foment change from within.

33 posted on 04/28/2016 1:09:11 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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The idea is to allow the Church to accept Christ’s teaching “in theory, but not in practice.” The very definition of "We're not changing doctrine, we're changing pastoral sensitivity."

This is the same nonsense we hear about Vatican II.

34 posted on 04/28/2016 1:27:04 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: grania
The Crusades brought diseases back from the Middle East which decimated the European population and social structure.

The Crusades threw the moslem hoardes out of many of the Christian countries that they had conquered. The only problem with the crusaders is that they did not have nuclear weapons.

35 posted on 04/28/2016 4:01:35 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: BlatherNaut

36 posted on 04/28/2016 4:38:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grania; ebb tide
The Seventh (last) Crusade ended in 1250. The Black Death hit Europe 100 years later, 1347-49/

Of course there's plenty of controversy about the exact timeline and causes, but from what I've read it took root in the Crimea in 1347. (Not an area touched by the Crusades.) It was spread by the Mongol army (Chinese, not Arab: also not involved in the Crusades) when they catapulted the infected corpses over the city walls of Caffa (Crimea) to infect the inhabitants. Genoese traders /commercial travelers fled by sea, bringing the plague by ship into Sicily and the south of Europe. It spread north from Mediterranean port cities, via trading routes, reaching Oslo by 1350.

Spread by commercial travelers and sailors. Not Crusaders.

37 posted on 04/28/2016 7:33:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the Devil.)
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To: ex-snook; ebb tide

>>>My understanding is that Popes have no history of dogma failures.

Correct. Therefore if he is teaching error or heresy, that signifies he is not Catholic, ergo not the pope.

N.B. Pope Pius XII, died 1958, was the last real deal.

I know this character is way over the top so it is much more “in your face”, but the others since 1958 have been a problem as well.


38 posted on 04/28/2016 8:36:41 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: bike800

>>>Can someone please tell me what doctrine or teaching he has officially changed during his time in office?

Well, there is this wee matter:

“So often [people ask]: ‘But do you believe?’: ‘Yes! Yes! ‘; ‘What do you believe in?’; ‘In God!’; ‘But what is God for you?’; ‘God, God’. But God does not exist: Do not be shocked! So God does not exist! There is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, they are persons, they are not some vague idea in the clouds ... This God spray does not exist! The three persons exist!”

(Bergoglio at Santa Marta: What we dare not hope for”, News.va, Oct. 9, 2014)

Video of him denying the Unity of the Three Divine Persons of God at the following link:

http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/francis-god-does-not-exist.htm


39 posted on 04/28/2016 9:39:31 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks!


40 posted on 04/29/2016 2:53:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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