Posted on 04/17/2016 5:07:42 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
Not there. That is why Europe will be on their own, and Israel, too.
hhmmm... Not there.. thanks capt!
That will drive our economic collapse and coupled with the ensuing civil war will render us impotent and irrelevant.
We "prep" to sustain ourselves while continuing to preach the Gospel until He returns, or call us home....
From all I’ve learned in Seminary, relatives’ preaching, and even J. Vernon McGee on the radio, America isn’t really addressed in eschatology. That’s why I’m not surprised at the downslide in our politics now; we won’t be relevant because we won’t exist.
Then in time came Rome. Which was often coded as "Babylon" by the early Christians. Because Rome was now the center of empire for all the world.
The title of "Babylon" has been passed along. To China. To the lands of western Christendom. To Venice. Back to Rome and then on to Spain and then to England. Each of these powers, at some time or another, held the reins of control over the world.
So, who is that center of empire now?
Who is the "Babylon" which we are told will be the source of every wicked thing upon the Earth? What is that final empire dreamed by Nebuchednezzar: the empire of iron and clay?
Take from this what one may.
We dont know that these things will befall America. This is mere speculation. It could be that America, will have become a less interventionist nation, like a lot want now. Not that the country isnt doing well or has collapsed. One scripture, who some say is America and Britian, where the young lion of the isles , say to those attacking Israel, why are you doing this, but does not intervene.
One of the hardest thing for young people to accept is that there are things that happen that cannot be explained by our “science” (I love good science/technology and have been a student of that most of my life), which are none the less real.
I have seen it many times.
We are the great, flaming mountain, that is thrown into the sea. The sea is described in the Bible symbolically as the Nations. A mountain is a mighty nation. The Mountain is on fire, which is a symbol of judgement. So, a great nation, the US is being judged. It instantly, probably from an electromagnetic pulse and subsequent nuclear attack goes from being like a mountain, head and shoulders above everyone else, to being like every other nation, like Botswana, in a moment.
After that nation disappears, literally all hell breaks loose. We aren't mentioned by name, but the Bible describes that particular nation this way-- "Your merchants were the great men of the Earth." That's us. The ships line up to drop off their goods, most likely at an eastern US harbor, and "stand far off because of the smoke of its destruction." A mushroom cluoud. They weep because they can't offload their goods. Most of the plagues mentioned after that, at least a good many of them come from the aftermath of a nuclear exchange between the US and most likely Russia. 1/3 of the vegetation is destroyed by fire, and the waters are poisoned. Basically, it's as you would think, with the US out of the way, the nations will go crazy, and begin to do what they've always wanted. Attack Israel and try to take over the planet. The antichrist will be there to scoop up the leavings.
However, evil has been with us throughout our existence. I refuse to believe we're worse today than the lynchings of the first half of the last century, or the slavery of the previous century. I could go on and on. Life has always been cheap, sin has always been rampant, and people have always looked around themselves and asked "Are these the End Times?"
Whether it's time or not, our job is to spread the Word to a world that has always hated it. Our spiritual ancestors succeeded in Rome, and our brothers and sisters will succeed in China and Russia. What about us?
They believe when the two sticks mentioned in prophecy are joined together (the stick belonging to Judah and the stick of Ephraim), it will be the US and Great Britain siding with Israel, against Gog and Magog.
Without the recognition that Old Testament Prophecy had in the past come true, is coming true, and will come true, there is no understanding that Christians are Zionist. We look for a Jewish king ruling from Jerusalem, and the establishment of peace throughout the world.
When we start believing that we have someway replaced Israel, we get into deep doo doo.
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Fear mongering BS.
The Bible is a book written by men. America didn’t exist then, Occam’s razor.
P.S. There is no such thing as a “Rapture”.
Turn on the TV, she's there. Walk down the street, she's there. A whore is a false bride. A woman that offers some of the pleasures of the Church, but only wants you for what you can give her. The Bible says a whore reduces a man into a loaf of bread. To the merchants, you are a dollar. All the porn, all the filth, all the lies, buy this, buy that, think this, think that, all the guilt-- it will all be switched off in the blink of an eye. Thank God.
The Rapture is a recent interpretation by some. Not all scholars would agree with that concept
•The Woman is called "Sodom" and "Egypt" and "Babylon" (Revelation 11:8; 17:5, 14:8, 18:10, 21). •The Woman is located where Jesus was crucified (Revelation 11:8). •The Woman's dwelling place becomes a River of Blood (Revelation 14:20). •The Woman is Split into 3 Divisions (Revelation 16:19). •The Woman "sits on many waters" (Revelation 17:1) and these "waters" are diverse peoples (Revelation 17:15). •The Woman has fornicated with the Heathen World against God (Revelation 17:2, 18:3, 18:9). •The Woman is born along on a Beast (Revelation 17:3). •The Woman is the Mother of all Whores and Abominable Atrocities (Revelation 17:5). •The Woman is Drunk on the Blood of O.T. & N.T. Saints (Revelation 17:6, 18:24, 18:20). •The Woman is responsible for the death of the Prophets and Apostles (Revelation 17:6, 18:20, 18:24). •The Woman sits on 7 Mountains (Revelation 17:9). •The Woman is a dwelling place of devils (Revelation 18:2). •The Woman is a Prison for Evil Spirits (Revelation 18:2). •The Woman is a Cage, full of Dirty Birds (Revelation 18:2). •The Woman has a Full Cup of Iniquities (Revelation 18:5). •The Woman is Doubly Judged (Revelation 18:6). •The Woman considers herself a Queen (Revelation 18:7). •The Woman still considers herself Married (Revelation 18:7). •The Woman was Rich and Mourned when Judged (Revelation 18:10, 16-19). •The Woman merchandised the Souls of Men (Revelation 18:13). •The Woman is pronounced Desolate (Revelation 18:19). •The Woman's sound of Joy is taken away (Revelation 18:22). •The Woman's position of Creativity is taken away (Revelation 18:22). •The Woman's authority as someone equipped to Judge is removed (Revelation 18:22). •The Woman's Light-Bearing ability is snuffed out (Revelation 18:23). •The Woman's Bridegroom has Divorced Her (Revelation 18:23). •The Woman's Engagement/Marriage has been annulled/abrogated (Rev 18:23). •The Woman is called "This/That Great City" (Revelation 11:8, 14:8, 16:19, 17:18, 18:10, 16, 18, 19, 21, 21:10).
Going around saying that the predictions in the Bible, have all ready been fulfilled does not sell any merchandise, so there is all sort of Clintonesque debating going on.
For instance when Jesus said “those of you standing here will see ....” did he mean what he said or was he talking in code about 2000 or 3000 years in the future? The simple answer is he meant what he said, the answer is different if you have stuff to sell today.
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